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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

black people ain't having no kamala

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It wouldn't surprise me if these sort of folks on social media would start saying she's too Asian to be the first black woman president. I would not put it past them to be that cynical.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In '08 there was a lot of "concern" in the media that Obama was "not black enough." Whether that originated from Hillary's campaign or elsewhere, I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The folks who talk about ADOS in like, college-educated black circles could raise that with future black candidates that come from immigrant parents. Anecdotally, I've heard complaints that the affirmative action spots at Ivys are going more to the upper middle class children of African immigrants than to, say poorer or middle class ADOS kids. I can see this as a form of inner-elite competition amongst the black leadership class of America for limited resources. Could be one way to foster nativism among middle class African American voters by the right, if they were shrewd enough to do that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hillary started the birther movement anyhow, which was then taken over by fox and is how Donald Trump got his modern political career Kickstarted lol. She has incredible political instincts.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

From what I've seen its not that they're turning her down as not black enough, its that its racist to have such high expectations of a black woman.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can see where they could be coming from with that via the criticism of the trope of having an Atlas-like black female leader who has to carry the weight of the world left to her by incompetent white men. The idea being that white leaders should own up to and fix some of their own problems instead of giving them all to a member of an oppressed class to remedy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, I guess, but it's honestly more problematic to assume that white men have to fix all the problems they caused before allowing a black woman to be in power.