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Lammy says Christianity and class give him common ground with JD Vance (www.theguardian.com)

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Vance has previously described Britain under Labour as the first “truly Islamist” country with a nuclear weapon.

Lammy told BBC Breakfast: “Let me just say on JD Vance that I’ve met him now on several occasions, we share a similar working class background with addiction issues in our family. We’ve written books on that. We’ve talked about that.

“And we’re both Christians so I think I can find common ground with JD Vance.”
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Expanding on his views on Vance on BBC Radio 4, Lammy said he had started to discuss the US view on global defence at the security conference in Munich in February.

“Yes, he has had strong things to say about European defences, and he has had a point of view about Ukraine,” Lammy said. “That’s why I’ve been engaged with JD Vance for many, many months.”

The foreign secretary once called Donald Trump a “neo-Nazi sociopath” and “a tyrant in a toupee”, but has distanced himself from those comments as the US presidential election has approached.

More recently Lammy has spoken at conservative events in the US, telling the Hudson Institute in May that he “gets the agenda that drives ‘America first’”.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The list of specific ways Republicans differ from literal Nazis has been shrinking for more than the last two decades and there's barely anything left, but sure, it's fine that this Labourite is toadying a guy who definitely drops a hard R among friends.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I think you're massively affected by American politics and that's possibly the wrong lens to talk about this through. A lot of what you're saying doesn't really make sense for UK politics.

There really isn't an appetite in the UK for a government like the Republicans in the US. Even the most hardline Tory is considered middle ground by US standards. So there really is no risk of Labour slipping in some way into accepting or fascism. All that is happening here is maintaining a relationship that predates the potential extremist government and hopefully will continue to exist after they have shown themselves to be utterly incapable. From the UK's perspective the absolute worst thing that can happen is a breakdown in that relationship.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

That is good to hear. Thanks for being understanding, I definitely have some baggage to unload. It's really intense over there. I would love to stop thinking about it for a while, if I could.