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Leaked German report on counter-offensive failure on Ukrainian army not fully implementing the training it has received from the West. Seems like the blame game is in full swing now. (www.telegraph.co.uk)

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

this was my fav bit

It states that the Ukrainian military favours promoting soldiers with combat experience over those who have received NATO-standard instruction. Commanders can therefore show “considerable deficiencies in leadership” which lead to “wrong and dangerous decisions”, the military document claims.

Imagine claiming that people who have actual combat experience are less qualified than those who were trained by NATO dorks who've never seen actual combat in their lives.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ukraine's army at this point has more combat experience than all of NATO combined. They should be the ones teaching NATO not the other way around, but of course they all, including the Ukrainians themselves, continue to firmly believe in the myth of western superiority. They are still convinced that western weapons and western training confer you some kind of superpowers and if you are still failing well that must mean you're just not doing it right, it must be your "inferior slavic genes" or "leftover soviet mentality" that prevents you from becoming like the fabled western supersoldiers. I see this internalized self-loathing and inferiority complex all the time especially among the liberals and the middle class of my own native (eastern European) country. When will eastern Europeans finally understand that no matter how much they debase themselves, no matter how hard they bend the knee and try to imitate and subordinate themselves, the West will NEVER see them as anything but inferior, wannabe westerners... pale imitations who will never achieve "true democracy" and "real western civilization"? Eastern Europe lost all semblance of dignity and self-respect in 1989.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

It's really incredible to watch. Although it does look like this understanding is happening in Russia now. After seeing all the western weapons burn, people are starting to realize that all the mythology that's been built up around the west is just propaganda. This was a really great rant https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1062183032360026172/1128502394053984256/1689126230265.mp4

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“leftover soviet mentality” that prevents you from becoming like the fabled western supersoldiers. I see this internalized self-loathing and inferiority complex all the time especially among the liberals and the middle class of my own native (eastern European) country.

In Poland it's everywhere, even more insufferable because a lot of people, especially on the right, managed to somehow combine this with the typical polish brash superiority complex, creating truly incredible pendulum.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

German military leaders also express frustration at experienced fighters being promoted over Western-trained troops, with the report claiming “combat experience does not mean that the soldier is a good leader in combat”.

The audacity, lol.