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[–] 436 points 2 years ago (50 children)

CNN reports:

Helen told the Post that President Joe Biden tried to call her, but she declined to speak to him since her husband 'was a devout Republican, and he would not have wanted me to talk to him.'

But she added that she does not hold the current president responsible for what happened to her family.

'I don’t have any ill will towards Joe Biden,' she said. 'I’m not one of those people that gets involved in politics. I support Trump, that’s who I’m voting for, but I don’t have ill-will towards Biden.'

Let's see:

  1. Decides who to ignore calls from based on her husband's wishes

  2. Claims to not be involved in politics, yet supports a certain candidate

Yep, that's a garden-variety republican.

The important takeaway here is that Biden made an effort to reach out.

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  • [–] 190 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

    Ok my respect is quickly dropping for these buffoons caught in the crossfire. But it's like interviewing an attendee from a nazi rally, what should I expect? Critical thinking? Morals? Hah!

    "devout Republican" haha... They're a religious cult.

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  • [–] 95 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Why would you have any respect for Trump supporters going to a Trump rally? Just because they were unlucky? They're still shitty people.

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It's a little more complicated for me considering my family once was Republican during Bush's first term. Rural, Appalachian, Pennsylvanian. I know some of these people most likely. Dumb people who know no better. Manipulated by rich interests. Feeling many pressures no doubt but too uninformed to point the finger at the right problem.

    They Thought Were Free is a great book that explores this ignorance endemic in the Third Reich.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Ok, I get that you have a strong desire to humanize them. But humanizing someone doesn't mean you automatically respect them, other than affording them the basic level you'd give any other semi-sentient being. What is there to respect in people who cheer on an addlepated, narcissistic, fascist manbaby?

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Yeah I'll admit respect probably wasn't the best choice for words, but as a father I respected his shielding his family from bullets, which is probably what led to use of that word.

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  • [–] 86 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    People using devout to describe their political views unironically is the scariest thing I've read today.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    devout Republican

    I had the same thought. It's not a sports team and not a religion. But man, some people treat it like that.

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  • [–] 82 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    One day she'll realize that after her husband was killed, the candidate she supports cared more about his shoes than about him.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Sadly, she won't realize shit. These people don't have revelations about who they support politically. They bury their heads in the sand eternally. I still know people who are die hard George W Bush supporters and think he was the best president we've ever had.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I still know people who are die hard George W Bush supporters and think he was the best president we’ve ever had.

    Honest question: do those folks say that because of how that campaign and presidency made them feel at the time, or is it honestly based in policy, politics, or something else tangible? Thank you.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Honestly, it's a mixed bag of all three. For some, the nostalgia of that time is very strong and for others they feel like GWB embodied the best of the Republican party(which says so much about the Republican party). And some are just bullshit contrarians who want to shut the people up who tout Obama and Biden's accomplishments.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago

    I'm glad I'm not the only one repeating this.

    He was more concerned about his shoes than:

    Following simple directions Getting off stage Acknowledging his staff was in danger Getting the fuck away from danger Asking about anyone else being injured Leaving the scene

    You know....NORMAL FUCKING SHIT

    But no, he needed to stand on stage AND at his get away vehicle to throw his fist up like he personally took down the gunmen.

    I cringed watching the SS try to get him to safety and he refused. I was just hoping no one else was going to get shot while he tried to be some kind of "hero".

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Devout Republican" is also pretty telling. These people aren't politically Conservative, they are religiously Republican. They worship their party and its leaders, and just like religion, they never require evidence for anything they believe.

    Conservatism is not an ideology for smart people or critical thinkers.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    You can’t discount the selfish and hateful as stupid as even the most vile people can be cunning. I’d agree that the median conservative would be less intelligent than the median liberal, but that discludes the folks looking to take from others their money, freedom, and time in order to enrich themselves monetarily or psychologically. Not everything can be Hanlon’s razor’d, sometimes people just enjoy sucking.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You deserve an award for the stupidest comment of the day

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    So you have time to make up shit about illegal immigrant mass murders but you can't respond to my receipts of the Heritage Foundation call to hatred when you first got on the Lemmy bloc? Lemmy dont forget anything but meme reposts, son. Where's them links on those illegal immigrant murder victims not getting a call from Biden? I want them.

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  • [+] -106 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)
  • [–] 60 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    I see where you're coming from, but you got a lot of facts wrong in your comment.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    If you could stop being a prick for 10 seconds you might notice that I already did respond to your original point.

    How can your expect anyone to take your argument seriously when you mix up the wife of a murder victim with the mother of a murderer and then respond by being a defensive asshole when corrected?

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    This was the rallygoer, not the shooter. There were two deaths at that event.

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