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What is "advanced" marxism? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Those that know me know I work a lot on prolewiki.

Online resources are a dime a dozen, and I notice they tend to focus on the beginner stuff. And in most reading lists / youtubers / communities / other repos, it all revolves around marxism 101.

It got me to ask how can we talk about the more advanced stuff on prolewiki? Learning the basics will only get you so far. There's only so many different ways and so many different people you can teach the basics to -- if they're serious about their marxist studies, people will have to look into more advanced stuff at some point, beyond the basics.

But then I started thinking, what is actually advanced marxism? Past the beginner level. Isn't the point of marxism that we make it accessible to everyone, thus making complex concepts feel basic and at anyone's reach?

Perhaps basic marxism is its three components: the philosophy, economy, and class struggle. And anything past that such as how to apply marxism yourself or theory on decolonisation, feminism, LGBT issues etc.

But making your own analyses and understanding the theory of further developments since Marx are two different things for the student of marxism.

Or perhaps it's the same three components, but in more details -- delving into the history of philosophy, learning about the class struggle in different countries and periods, learning about other economy theory?

What is advanced marxism, and how can we bring it to the people over the internet?

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

Most of them will probably be Hegelian. Object-oriented metaphysics is the Aristotle way. Process-oriented metaphysics, a la Whitehead, gets started in the imperial core by Hegel. The idea that objects don't exist as such but only the processes that the universe proceeds through. Engels goes into this when he writes about dialectics in nature.

Contradiction becomes much more nuanced, and therefore advanced, when you abandon object-oriented metaphysics.

Then you've got negation and negation of negation. You've got propaganda, advertising, psyops, and everything related to propaganda, which is itself incredibly heady and advanced when you unpack it.

But really, advanced Marxism is Marxism applied to the application of Marxism. Dialectical materialism studying the interrelations of everything and the reactions to change and therefore the reactions to examination and the reactions to reactions - it's complex and advanced because you have to have a grounding in how to make complexity simple enough to deal with without simplifying it to metaphysical objects.

Hope this helped. I can't tell.