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[+] 189 points 2 years ago (173 children)
  • [–] 111 points 2 years ago* (38 children)

    And preferably, name someone who has announced their candidacy.

    A list of people you'd like in the job isn't as relevant. I would've accepted almost any of the names people had floated, had any of them publicly shown interest.

    But here we are with people often demanding Jon Stewart and Michelle Obama throw their hats in the ring, and that's two people who keep saying they aren't interested.

    Edit: the shit people downvote here.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    No one who wants to run in 2028 is going to run against the incumbent President unless that President is incredibly weak.

    Biden in 2020 was solid, but even he had a close win over Trump. Biden 2022 was starting to show signs of wear (understandably so), but planning for 2024 made sense. Not my favorite choice, but I don't think it was necessarily wrong. 2024 SOTU Biden scared Republicans so much they made up all sorts of drug rumors.

    Jump to 1st Debate 2024 Biden. That was his first real misstep. Biden can recover from this.

    Biden was far from my first choice in 2020, but he's done a great job. He needs to get out there and prove it. Showcase what he's done and pitch a plan for a future America.

    Right now I don't know if Biden can do that. I saw parts of it during the debate, but I want more. Biden should be able to convince his own party he has what it takes to win. Biden isn't incredibly weak at the moment, but he's getting weaker.

    At the end of the day I'm voting for Biden (or his replacement) because I believe in Democrat policy. I'm not just voting "against Trump", I believe Democratic policy is better for Americans and the American people. Republican policy, especially under Trump, isn't even worth considering, it's fascism and I don't mean that hyperbolically.

    If Biden can't beat Democrats, Biden can't beat Trump and that's a big fuckin concern to me.

    Also, since you're looking for a name, Newsom has made it clear he is going to run in 2028. Will he run if Biden steps down? That's debatable. It's going to be a tough race and a loss in 2024 probably means no chance of running in 2028. There is a chance no one can beat Trump (and that's even scarier).

    (Also to anyone on the fence, Fuck Trump. Get your ass to the voting booth on election day and vote Biden.)

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The ones who aren't interested are usually more trustworthy?

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I wonder how much of it is just undermining Biden. I lump this in with the "just any third party" people. It doesn't make sense unless your goal is to just undermine Biden to bemoan his situation and the party without rallying behind something more specific. The "just any third party" implies the person is equally stoked about the chances of a Green Party or a Libertarian candidate, which makes no sense given the vastly different platforms.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    To be clear, I'm planning to vote against trump unless somehow biden gets replaced with someone worse than trump (~0% chance that happens, but still)

    that said, I don't know a single person who's happy with biden or excited that he's the candidate, and frankly I doubt the sanity of anyone excited about him as much as I doubt bidens sanity (whereas with people voting for trump the insanity is crystal clear). I don't know for sure who would be better, kamala might be the best bet, but being able to get through a debate without gibberish word salad sentences should be an obvious requirement

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It should be, but the time and place for it was in the primaries, not when you're up against another word salad candidate with a die hard rock solid base.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago* (27 children)

    I remember when RBG said the same thing. "Who would you rather see on the court other than me?" The answer is literally anyone else who isn't a christofascist rapist, but they ended up with that one christofascist rapist.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    It may also be a little late to introduce a new candidate, unless they have great name recognition. Betcha Bernie 2.0 would mobilize a goodly number of people, while centrists would hold their noses, and just vote for Not Trump.

    Bernie isn't running, and Biden isn't quitting, so we take what we can get. At this point, I would literally vote for a loofah if it ran against Trump.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

    Someone on lemmy said this Sunday that France leftist successfully formed a global left party in 4 weeks, surely Democrats could find a candidate in 4 months.

    I want to see AOC as your president.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Turns out she will actually be old enough to become president even before election day. And she certainly has the name recognition. Again, Biden is not likely to step down - and at this point, I would vote for an empty tube of toothpaste over Trump.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Offering to run instead of Biden at this point would basically be political suicide, so it’s no wonder nobody has stepped up. If Biden backs out though the math changes significantly. This is t a very convincing argument.

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