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    [–] [email protected] 176 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    SIGTERM is the graceful way tho? It nicely asks programs to please close and cleanup. Unlike SIGKILL, which bombs the shop and creates orphans.

    [–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    And we give steam a fewilliseconds to comply, so IDK what they're complaing about...

    [–] [email protected] 54 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Please end your process. You have ten milliseconds to comply.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Please do not resist.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    ?

    You're supposed to close Steam via menu or systray. If you run it in cli, you see that it cleans then a whole bunch up for a few seconds.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

    Steam is clunky... Exit -> Oh you want to exit? Let me launch a new window letting you know I'm shutting down and take about 20 seconds while I was sitting here idle before you asked to shutdown.

    See you tomorrow where I'll validate your games again. Just in case!

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Yup. And you can kill processes in Windows to in the task manager. Or probably with a Powershell command too, but nobody's gonna learn Powershell LOL.

    There's nearly always equivalent functions in both Linux and Windows, just in Windows you gotta click around in more bullshit forms and shit to find stuff. Or learn Powershell, but again, LOL. They are both OSes after all, they do similar things. Just one might do them better than the other.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Why u gotta hate on PowerShell like that? I like it. 😭

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

    It might be nice and all that (I wouldn’t know), but it’s not a sub- nor superset of glorious POSIX

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Probably because it's the scripting language equivalent to Clippy. Ref.: Approved "verbs"

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Boy oh boy would you hate AppleScript. This is what I have to type to throw files in the trash instead of deleting them.

    tell application ”Finder” to delete POSIX file “/full/fucking/path/to/file”
    
    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Why do you need to "tell" some "application"? Why do you need a "finder" if you know the absolute path already? Does this imply that "finder" always runs, ready to be told something?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Finder is macOS equivalent of Windows Explorer (maybe, it’s been a while). I assume Linux desktop suites have various similar processes. In other words, a second optional layer (with more features) to access runtime libc file manipulation api.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Explorers in Linux don't work like this. They are just some app you can move your files with.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

    Yes. Finder is just some app you can move files with on macOS.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I really appreciate the consistency. People also dog it for being verbose to write but it makes it so much more legible.

    /shrug

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

    I usually write verbose code and use self-documenting function names, but to have such a limited set of verbs available can be frustrating. They could at least have used a proper dictionary and included all verbs. Then have a map of synonyms that are preferred, like instead of 'create' they prefer 'new' (which isn't even a verb).

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    You don't have to follow best practices though. You can name shit pretty much whatever you want.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    No, but if you don't the UI will nag at you just like Clippy did, which is my point.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

    Only if you haven't disabled or dismissed the "problem"

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

    Your opinion is wrong, Powershell must be banished

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

    I find objects much easier to work with rather than a bunch of string manipulation.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

    Just think of strings as the objects.

    /waves magic wand

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    It's one of those things wher eI'm sure it's fine if you learn it. But it's not DOS CMD, but also not bash.

    So instead of improving CMD to have more features or just going all the way and offering an official bash implementation, they want me to learn a third thing. Just don't have time for it.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    It’s second to none if you have to get things done in a Windows environment, especially if dealing with Active Directory.

    But if not, I don’t blame you for not picking it up. Right tool for the job and all that.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

    I do use it occasionally, but I gotta google for the command every time. So not exactly learning it.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I use powershell quite a bit at work and I really like it.

    If anything it's much easier to read than the abomination called bash.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    I wanna learn PowerShell but I only really learn extra stuff like that if I have to. My work computer is a Mac now and has been since 2019. At home I don't use too much on Windows to really warrant it. I did used to know how to do "sudo" in PowerShell which was useful. Best the hell out of restarting as admin.

    The "object" approach instead of everything as text seems desirable.