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[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I feel like the UK is lagging behind and we will see a rubber banding effect. After a decade of cons we will see a weak centrist labour party that will try to right the wrongs of the previous government while also taking all the blame for it. Then come next election cycle, because they were too pussyfoot to change FPTP, a stronger than ever right wing party will undo anything.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

The FPTP system in the UK is what makes this incredibly likely. Yes labour won huge with their Tory lite platform, but turnout was shit and their huge majority win isn't even 35 percent of the people who even bothered voting. That's a very fragile landslide and it will turn around when these milquetoast liberals fail to change anything (because they don't want to change anything).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Labour got less votes than 2019. What a landslide! I’m not sure their Tory lite platform did them any favours. They were just Not The Tories and reform split the Tory vote because they were also Not The Tories and promised that everything would be perfect if we just hate immigrants a bit more

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately we won't get proper socialists after that, we'll get fascists.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, FPTP is a shitty system and needs to be changed. But it's disconcerting to consider how many hard right Reform MPs we'd have now if we had proportional representation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

To be sure, but with actual labour supporters looking at that and thinking "it's because Tories didn't actually keep their promises to stop immigration" and "let's opress trans people too" I honestly don't think the resulting government with a few more in opposition would've been worse than something where an actual left party might've succeeded. You know, one that provides a revolutionary vision of hope.

“I do think people need hope, but it needs to be what I call ordinary hope, realistic hope,” Starmer said.

https://inthesetimes.com/article/britain-keir-starmer-corbyn-election-serious

This government is doomed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah that sounds about right.