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[–] [email protected] 234 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Wouldn't this mean a president has an obligation to kill his political opponents if they're seen as a threat to the United States, and as an official act, it would be completely legal? Effectively making one man above the law.

Even if it's not seen as an official act, you can't charge the president while they're in the office, and with that power and a loyal justice department, you could eliminate anyone who might try to argue the legality of your actions.

Good luck convincing anyone to bring a case against the guy who keeps making people disappear when they investigate him.

This + project 2025 & a trump presidency is the end of US democracy. I don't even wanna start thinking about the impacts globally..

[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 months ago

Trump could now argue he, as sitting president, was threatened in his functioning by the new president elect, and it was an official act to block the transfer of power as long as the sitting president has concerns about the validity of the votes. (Ofcourse he always has those concerns)

And now with the coming elections he will claim the same and as a bonus he officially and in the open has the republicans refuse to certify a losing vote because that also threatens his position and impedes his functioning.

If the lower courts now claim his acts were not official he will just appeal that back to the Supreme Court, thereby still delaying any closure of the case well after the elections.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Biden should just pass an official law that SCOTUS must be evenly split between major parties.

This couldn't be illegal to do anymore, as Biden will be immune, as it'll be an official act.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying it might be a crime for a President to unilaterally invent a new law and make the federal government enforce it? Well, you see...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

No just unconstitutional which is what the scotus exists to make judgments about. They just take it upon themselves to judge everything else too...

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You are confusing the United States that existed until this decision with the United States that exists after this decision. As long as it’s an official act, the president can now do whatever it wants. If the supremes court objects, the president and threaten or assassinate the justices as long as it’s an official act. The President is now effectively a king. Read Sotomayor’s dissent in this decision. She explicitly states this.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No, he can just order members of Congress to be executed until they pass the law he wants.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I would rather he just pack the bench to 50 seats, one for each state, fast track nominations, and force congress to stay in session until a full court is appointed by putting hoteling them in the vicinity and only allowing them movement between hotels and congressional chambers. This would be in his power and immune as official acts after all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Well that's true! :)

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's...not how it works. Like where your heart is, but this makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

That's not how it worked. Past tense!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We all know it’s not how it works, but that’s precisely what Trump et al will try to do. This is just malicious compliance.