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I watch a lot of Dead Mall videos on YouTube and I wanted to see what everyone's thoughts are on why there's so many dead malls now.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Anecdotal, but I grew up in the heyday of malls and my local mall was one of the largest, and is now one of the most famous dead malls. The mall was in decline when Amazon was still in its infancy, mostly still selling books. Buying clothes online was considered lunacy at the time because there was no fitting rooms to try things on. Still, vacancy was on the rise in the mall and once a few violent crimes started happening inside that was all she wrote. "Big Box" stores like Walmart became more of a draw than driving all the way to the mall.

I think the reasons for the death of the mall are more complex, just like the death of the department store. There were lots of weird tax incentives, both for developers, and for (mostly white) residents fleeing the urban core during the 90s. Those were not sustainable. Malls themselves were a bit of a private equity shell game which couldn't last. The story of dead malls is more about capitalism and land use policy than just Amazon.

I'll never forget Forest Fair Mall in those first years though. It's 1.5 MILLION square feet, and it was absolutely packed, especially during Christmas. Humongous fountains, sand sculptures, live music... every single spot of its airfield-like parking lot was full. The only thing today that I think comes close, if younger people want the experience, is the main concourse of a top ten airport.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think the West Edmonton Mall comes pretty close at 5.3 million square feet. I remember seeing dolphins in there.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

The West Edmonton Mall used to have more submarines than the Canadian navy. I think that was before the dolphins though.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

West Ed is still dope. I don't know about submarines, but they have a 10/10 water park in there, and a bunch of other stuff.