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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That episode of South Park where Richard Dawkins freaks out when he finds out his girlfriend Mrs. Garrison was trans, and unravels his budding atheist world empire because of this, was so prescient.

But here's my attempt at figuring out what happened. Those anti-evangelical British Lib Dem/Labour atheists (e.g., Richard Dawkins, Graham Linehan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Stephen Fry, Maajid Nawaz John Cleese, Ricky Gervais) who were so beloved by libs in the Bush and early Obama eras, splintered from the younger liberals/leftists on the degree to which the west should tolerate Muslims, and attributed this split to younger people's obsessions with "political correctness." They began bleeding their following, and got extremely obsessed with affecting a "nuanced intellectual" persona and reveling in their persecution complex by going "I'm as liberal as they come but the modern left is doing ____ too much and is even calling ME a racist and sexist!"

The alt-right/chuds/Conservative dark money network loved hearing this shit and started glomming onto these people, because their movement was dying and needed a less cringe, marginally more secular sheen. Suddenly these atheist personalities found that their cries about political correctness on videos/podcasts would always garner a huge response (even if it's from the right), and so started playing this shit up more. Around the same time JK Rowling was getting obsessed with twitter because she regularly dunked on Trump and got fawned over by Tumblr-types. However, as she reveled daily in adoration, once she did get criticisms about her trepidation towards trans people and Jeremy Corbyn, it was like turning off her pleasure tap, and drove her insane.

All this converged in the form of bitter Brit atheists backing JK Rowling because of their shared animosity toward the younger left's "coddling" and "cancel culture" (i.e. not thinking they were the ideological vanguard anymore). Once Caitlin Flanagan's article "The Coddling of the American Mind" framed this behavior of the younger left as an open academic inquiry issue, a new collective of influential "anti-PC" web personalities was born.

The Brit libs became willing to do anything to stick it to the young people who didn't like them anymore, and began jamming up liberal spaces with claims that reducing racist/transphobic literature from college syllabi was hindering "free inquiry" and "intellectual growth." This got them invites to Real Time with Bill Maher, JRE, and the Rubin Report, and even suckered many liberal/leftist comedians/academics like Whitney Cummings/Kumail Nanjiani/Zizek/Finkelstein. So they just stayed stuck like this and helped portray Rowling as a martyr, and "serious concerns" about the "excess" of trans rights became the mainstream UK culture among even the Labour Party, subsequently even echoed and appreciated by Hillary Clinton.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

CW: Discussion of transphobia

This is a very pop-cultural explanation that looks specifically at a few random bourgeois actors and their interactions with traditional and social media. I think a better explanation for why TERF island is so transphobic has less to do with New Atheism (i.e. Dawkins et al.) and JK Rowling (who are symptoms of the underlying problem rather than the source). It has to do with the fact that the UK is fundamentally a dethroned world superpower. The UK lost all its colonies and became a vassal of the United States, and for a while was just an appendage of the EU. The same thing that is behind British transphobia is the same thing behind Brexit. It's the same old reactionary "we used to be a REAL country. We used to be an EMPIRE. But now we have FALLEN FROM GRACE and we need a nonconformist scapegoat to blame for our current geopolitical irrelevancy!" And what better scapegoat than trans people, who have been undergoing a civil rights struggle similar to the struggles of other marginalized groups. When a marginalized group is actively undergoing a civil rights struggle in a dethroned empire like the UK, they become a convenient scapegoat for why the country is no longer powerful. This is especially true of trans women, who are seen through a transphobic lens as "biological men who refused the call to be masculine revanchist imperialists."

TL;DR transphobia is ~~just~~ another genre of "the west has fallen, billions must die"

EDIT: Not "just" since transphobia exists outside of empire, but it takes on that flavor in the imperial core

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's a great explanation that's much more big picture, as I recall some of the #FBPE libs were even blaming Brexit passing on the left being too PC and pro-trans, thereby aggravating the leavers too much.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Plus the situation for trans people is getting worse in the US as its standing in the world declines. That also explains why the UK is furthest ahead in its transphobic crusade.