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I wish there were more high quality dumb TVs. Most of the dumb TVs I can find today are both very expensive and lack the features I’m looking for like HDR and 120hz+ frame rates.
I know the argument is that the privacy invasions are subsidizing the cost of the TV but I have yet to see non-anecdotal evidence of that and suspect that the price of the TV would be the same either way because the market will only support so much expense.
Just don't let it connect to internet.
There are no good dumb teevees for home use
It will work at a premium cost, and only until they start selling them with LTE chips buried away in the motherboard.
Punish me harder daddy... No doubt on LTE chip tho haha
So many devices come with those now.... I open up my products and remove the card, the antenna, or the whole board if possible.
Which do?
For example, my sleep apnea machine had a wifi for home and a LTE modem. Data gathered by the machine was sent off-site...no reports available on the host. Privacy policy read it would gather info, run diagnostics on itself and the local network without explanation of what it was doing.
My sleep data could not be viewed by me, only through the 3rd party, so I ripped out the wifi board and LTE chip. I haul the machine into my doctor office so he can cycle through data on the tiny display.
He hates it, but I remind him he picked the machine without asking me if I agreed to to the data collection.
Ya fuck that. That's why I have an IOT vlan, though even that has its caveats. Nest speakers with microphones and your sleep apnea machine have some good personal data gathering capabilities despite it.
For insurance to cover it the data tells them whether you are using it or not. If you don’t meet the minimum usage they won’t pay for the machine. Buying it yourself negates that, but they can get spendy.
Do not buy Philips.
They make you buy the machine... The data is collected for doctor review, but instead of letting me use the open FOSS reporting, it's encrypted so that I can't see my own data.
After that experience I'm certain sleep apnea machines are a huge insurance racket. 45 dollars for a replacement plastic tube.....lol
That is the solution. Connect your box to the internet, never the TV.
It's becoming harder to find TVs that will operate without a network connection
I've never heard of this happening before. What does the TV do?
Won't do anything until it is hooked back to the internet
Even if you just passing your device to it?
Yeah, I've seen it on some Samsungs and LGs that get real pissy when the TV itself isn't online. I've also heard of some brands (that I don't remember atm) that won't even let you go through the initial setup without a connection.
/Microsoft announced new foray into TVs...
Where are you getting 120hz content for tv?
Game consoles
What I want to know also
Game consoles.
Look for commercial models.
Such as? If you have a reasonably priced OLED dumb tv with HDR and 120FPS up your sleeve you will be my favorite internet friend.
depends on where you are, I just know that looking at an upgrade earlier this year (I REFUSE smart tvs) we found better jobs on the commercial front.
Ironically we ended up scoring one from our local buy nothing group, but I did find https://hometheateracademy.com/best-dumb-non-smart-tvs/ if it helps.
I grabbed a display TV and haven’t hooked it up to the internet, so far so good. Could look into that.
I use computer monitors for TVs. Mostly because they're smaller and I don't have that much space for stuff. Most have all those features but don't have a smart interface. I plug them in over HDMI and make sure CEC is enabled so I can turn it on and off with a dumb remote the RasPi. Works pretty well actually.