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New poll finds strong majority opposes gender-affirming care bans for trans minors (www.lgbtqnation.com)
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[–] 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Then morally don't do it yourself and leave everyone else to make their own decisions.

Why do so many people care about what other people do to their own bodies?

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    They oppose bans on care. But a slight majority thinks it's wrong to transition.

    I think that's what you're looking for. They don't want to do it, but don't want to ban anyone who's doing it.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    “But a slight majority thinks it's wrong to transition.”

    Looks like someone forgot what freedom was about and needs to be educated on it.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think the people surveyed agree with you here. They're saying that they're opposed to the surgery, but they don't want to ban the surgeries even though they oppose them.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Minors aren't getting any surgeries.

    Gender affirming care for trans kids involves seeing psychiatrists, social transitioning, and, if they're lucky, puberty blockers till they're old enough to decide whether they want to medically and surgically transition.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And that’s a completely different issue that’s totally separate from the anti trans laws being pushed by the right wing today.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You didn't get their point. The only children who are getting gender reassignment surgery are the ones who right wing doctors are trying to assign a gender to, despite medical consensus that it's unnecessary, he's calling the right wing misinformed and hypocritical

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I agree with what you are saying here, I’m just not sure that was the previous posters point.

    It may have been, but it reads to me like they are just saying “nuh uh” to the person above them.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    volodya_ilich is correct! but also I think it would be useful to use this energy on both sides to prevent gender assignment surgeries on infants (even if the right does not realize the context?)

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    They need to be informed that surgery alleviates gender dysphoria and saves tens of thousands in the long run from poor mental health to lessen productivity.

    The healthcare system should cover every gender affirming care surgery available.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Don't accept their definition shifting. They wrap surgery into "gender affirming care" then say young children get GAC to make people think they're regularly performing surgery on 12 year olds. Hormone blockers are GAC too.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There are many misconceptions here. For instance, a sizeable fraction of the public believes that minors receive a sex-change surgery (they don’t) as opposed to just medication and therapy. I think most people are mostly worried that it is easy to transition and kids might do it without considering the consequences. These myths could be easily dispelled if they actually talk to transgenders.

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  • [+] -25 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    And we also should allow alcohol and drugs for minors. And weddings of course.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Kind of a weak argument, we currently ignore the first part almost entirely from a legal perspective, I don't remember the last time a child or parent got in trouble for a kid sneaking booze under age. They get in trouble for the things they do while drunk, but not the drinking itself. The parents get talked to, but unless they bought them the alcohol there's no repercussions.

    As for the the weddings, they are still legal with no effective minimum age in 4 US states (and there are multiple marriages a year as young as 12) and about half the states only restrict it to age 16+

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