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    [–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I'm talking from a users perspective.

    no, you're talking from a patreon perspective. You have no clue of the subject and you simply demand people serving stuff the way you think is best. Also you don't care why things are the way they are.

    Basically a Karen User.

    The vast majority of people don't know - or care - how their car works. They just know it has to start.

    Exactly. The vast majority buys a $50.000 car and only use 2% of it's features. And if the manufacturer starts to charge for a feature you like or decides to spy on you, there's nothing you can do about it.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    What part of this don't you understand?

    I KNOW I'm not talking like a developer. I'm not one. I'm a fucken user. That's the point. The point that so many piece of open source software completely miss.

    And you just did it again.

    I don't care if there is a little gerbil in a wheel spinning inside my machine. I don't care if it is a nuclear reactor making it go. To the user, that's is immaterial and you are missing that point.

    As a user I don't care HOW a piece of software is made. I care that it works and I can get my work done. There is a workflow to most jobs. You do this before you do that. You click on this tool 10x as often as this other one. Few open source programs bother to understand that all important work flow because usually the people writing the code aren't the people who ultimately use the code.

    I can say it again and again and again and I just know I haven't gotten through to you.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    What part of this don't you understand?

    I understand all of it. I just point out your dilemma. Your whining will get you nowhere.

    You're a user not willing to read manuals completely but expect stuff to work at your fingertips. You'll get older and as stuff keeps changing, you'll find it harder and harder to catch on. You'll spend a shitload of money to people promising the ease of good old patterns you are used to but you just can't keep up with folks using more efficient techniques.

    And well, FOSS just doesn't seem to be your thing. Obviously, you need to unload your frustration on some service hotline worker... or random people online.

    [–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

    Why should open source software demand that a user "read manuals completely" and yet other software doesn't require that? Are the people who program open source software that talentless that they don't even know how a user of their own software uses it? That's a FAILURE of the developer. Time is money, and if it takes for me to purchase a piece of commercial software to get the kind of talent to write software which makes me a more efficient worker, then hell yeah most people will be willing to do just that. But then let's please stop pretending that Linux and most open software is a viable alternative. It's not. It's mostly just a "tech demo". The arrogance of the Linux community is pretty hilarious.