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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Society does not value men inherently like women (as in for just existing), it values the benefit they can provide.

Since when have we inherently valued women? Since they received the right to vote, maybe when they were allowed to have credit cards without a man's permission?

How exactly are we defining value here? I just don't see any appreciation of value being shown that isn't directly related to maintaining a hierarchy of relations based on what's between your legs and what you do with it.

If society inherently valued women I would think they would have more to show for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Value women as in having more women’s shelters, having more support systems for women. Or even things like more scholarships for women.

Usually men have to provide value to get support.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

But those are direct reactions to women lacking opportunities in those specific fields.