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South Korea thinktank suggests girls start school earlier to raise birthrate
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this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2024
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This is funny to me.
Oh, it costs too much to educate kids? Just put them in schools at a younger age, rip off that bandaid sooner.
No, let's not talk about the wound that bandaid is covering up in the first place, that's completely unrelated.
"This summer, 100 Filipino domestic helpers and childminders will arrive in South Korea as part of a pilot programme designed to ease the pressure on working women who fear they will have to leave their jobs if they have children."
TL;DR - It's cheaper to pay Filipinos to raise children than it is to pay actual biological mothers.
Maybe also fathers. Would help also if it not falls always back on the women to take care of the kids. There are 2 parents that could shoulder that
I just quoted the article yo, but you do make a valid point.
I mean, if those women would prefer to keep working with more child raising support I think that’s a great option along with some sort of benefit system for those that do want to stay at home to raise kids. I’d imagine the latter isn’t on the table though
Raising children is work. So it's okay to pay Filipinos to raise children, but not pay the parents to raise their own children?
They're outsourcing parenting to foreigners, ain't that just cute? Anything to save money huh? 🤔
They’re paying the Filipino care workers about $710/month. Paying a professional Korean working parent to stay home from her job to care for her own kids would cost a lot more than that, both in terms of the money spent and the cost to the employer to train and hire a temporary replacement.
Um, thanks for the numbers and comparison I guess, basically backing up my comment. Do they not have professional daycare facilities that employ Korean citizens?
Or are they just too cheap to pay their own citizens? Because basically every time a country outsources work of any form to foreigners, it's always to save $$$...
Have an upvote, you've highlighted my basic point. 👍
I’m sure if they could pay Koreans to do the work they would. The issue is that they’re too expensive. Korea has a highly educated population with extremely fierce competition to get into the best universities (the infamous CSAT) and the best jobs after graduation. Koreans who do not make it tend to move overseas where their education gives them an advantage over other immigrants for college and job spots. This process leaves very few available workers for many different low-skilled jobs (not just child care).
So, in one comment, you refer to professional child care, and in your next comment, you refer to child care as a low-skill job?
Can you make up your mind?
Like I said, it's not about the people, it's about the money. Always has been, and always will be.
We need to make a distinction between child care and early childhood education (ECE). Korea does have ECE programs at their universities and so presumably there are spaces available at ECE programs. However these are expensive because they’re staffed by highly educated professionals, so only well-off parents can afford them.
This is of course true in any country with a highly educated populace. The issue has been called “cost disease.” When you have a highly efficient, highly productive economy, you end up having to pay less productive workers more. For example, compare a typical office worker with a hairdresser. An office worker today is far more productive than they would’ve been a hundred years ago. On the other hand, the hairdresser today is exactly as productive as they were a hundred years ago.
Hairdressing productivity has not increased at all whereas office work has. So if you want hairdressers to still exist you need to pay them a lot more than you would have a hundred years ago (commensurate with the increase in productivity of office workers), otherwise the hairdresser might as well get an office job!
You can see this story repeating itself throughout both Korean and Western economies (and anywhere else where productivity has increased dramatically). And in all of these countries you can see a lot of reliance on foreign workers to fill in these sorts of low skill jobs (such as basic childcare).
The other aspect of professional child care facilities that I see no one talking about is real estate. These facilities need a ton of space in some really expensive areas to handle a relatively small number of children. Paying for an in-home childcare worker can be a lot cheaper than a professional facility for the simple reason that you don’t have to pay for the overhead of the facility’s rent and maintenance costs.
I’m saying giving parents a choice between the two would probably be best.
It's no different than if I were to hire a foreigner to babysit rather than hire a local citizen because it's cheaper...