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Some clues :

Douglas P. Fry : Pacified Past
Azar Gat : Warfare as an Ancient Feature
Robert L. Carneiro : Complexity and State Formation

Was the 20th century one of the most violent in human history ? (with two world wars and numerous other conflicts) ?

i also like the documentary series : "The Ascent of man" from the BBC in 1973 by Jacob Bronowski.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

... i am looking into this because it seems i had this wrong belief that for a period of about 40,000 years from 50,000 to 10,000 BC most of humanity did not know warfare. i might have seen some old documentary stating something like that ...
And i also formed the belief that victorious men in warfare had a larger descendancy (increasing our tendency towards conflicts).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a species we have always made war on each other. Our ancestal species also most likely did. Our closest living genus also frequently raids other tribes.

It is a part of who we are. However, like xenophobia it is something we can work to minimise with the goal to eradicating one day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Your answer here is the best one so far for me. Are chimpanzees some of those frequently raiding other groups (tribes) ?

Better education will always be a major part of the solution ... but i don't think education alone will be sufficient to make us good.

Like 99% of people you will (probably) disagree with me on the following, but eventually (in 50 years ?), i believe that many people will volunteer to have genetic therapy to decrease their aggressivity and that of their descendants.

We have to change in a fundamental way since we are still waging wars while climate change will likely kill a majority of us in the next few decades.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

bwhahahah!

I mean, I'm glad you're realising that was wrong, but its a hilarious concept to have held.

I mean, most of humanity would have been in constant battle / warfare. (low key) It's just, that far back, societies and technology were a bit different.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's really not necessary to shame someone who is willing to learn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Hi @[email protected]
you are very caring and I appreciate it. Thank you for this.

Hi @[email protected]
its ok, no hard feelings. if really i made you laugh a little bit, then, i am also glad about it.
Take care 😌

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

am I shaming him? Or am I shaming the concept/idea?

He doesn't agree with it.

I don't. You don't.

It seems fair game to mock it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sources i give in the body of my post indicate an evolution of the knowledge since the BBC series of 1973 and also that even today archaeologist // historian disagree on this topic.

... if only I could find that source again ...
i believe they were explaining that there was an archaeological discovery where there was a village not so far away from the shore where they discoved huge piles of shells that showed that, for a very long time, there was a settlement connected to an other settlement near the shore and that for many thousands of years, there would have been people to stay near the shore bringing those shells to be eaten by people at the higher settlement further up, away from the cost and it was a proof (an example) of a stable settlement for tens of thousands of years so demonstating that, at the time, there was no war ...

i believe they were also saying (and this we now know it isn't true) that war was invented sometimes like 10,000 years ago, and mostly at the same time in many parts of the world. (Jericho's fortifications being the first example of large war)

i am quite sure it's not something I have invented because on some topics I have a good memory.