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The "recognition" from the UN in 1948 took place when most of Africa was colonized and many of the countries in the global south were essentially bullied into it. So it's all good that the world is on the side of Palestine, but Palestine is more than just the '48 or '67 borders or whatever

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This is how you lose support for your cause

How? We can acknowledge we lack the power to force Europeans and Americans to go back home, but we shouldn't entertain the idea that the occupation is anything other than stolen land and a history of genocide. At the very least it should only be a forced compromise that we can't get the Palestinians their homes back but that we never let the occupation try and fool people into thinking it's their land; they only have it because we don't have the power to force them to go back home. We should be working on correcting people's understanding of what Israeli territory actually is, and what the nature of the settlers are.

If my home is invaded by a guy with a gun, and no one can force him out, the least people can do is acknowledge that the man is a criminal and that we're only putting up with it because we lack the power to make him leave, not that now the man is the new rightful owner and that I should be the one to leave, and quietly too. The goal should be to teach people of what Israel truly is; it's at least one way to encourage a global BDS movement.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

This motherfucker is gonna be the type that, 20 years from now when the Palestinian cause is accepted by the majority, will say "oh yeah I supported them back then!" Fuck that user, there's no use arguing with them

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because the implication is that you want to eliminate israel, then people read this shit and go on tv and say explicitly that they want to eliminate israel. The average viewer and even progressives see that shit and think anyone who calls out the genocide is calling for the dissemination of israel. It does matter what you say, and flipping to the opposite extreme will NEVER happen while the US is there, but a ceasefire COULD happen with enough public pressure.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Take a wild guess as to what happened in South Africa in 1960 and 1976 during peaceful demonstrations when people were simply demanding the Apartheid segregationist laws repealed. Also your arguments are verbatim the Apartheid-era "white genocide" word for word.

The only way a ceasefire is possible if ISISrael is sanctioned much in the same manner as South Africa and the bloodthirsty ethnonationalist regime dismantled. idf-destroyer