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What does the US have to gain?
And Israel would never have the funds to commit a genocide without us...
We're just bringing money because politicians get AIPAC and defense industry kickbacks in the form of donations.
They can get those donations from any industry, and most of those don't come with a fucking genocide.
What does the US have to gain? Location, pressure, denial of certain attacks (like Israel assassinating Iranian generals), being able to position nuclear weapons close to Iran, as well as distracting Iran from attacking US targets directly, among a host of other benefits. This also extends to other countries in the same vicinity.
Israel would definitely have the funds to take out Palestinians if they weren't being supported by external forces. The Palestinians are flat broke, they have no advanced industries at all. The GDP per capita for Gaza is like $900 USD a year per person, and only double that in the west bank. Israel is around $50,000. The British really turbo-charged the Israeli economy while they were in control of the area pre-1948 and the effects of that are still extremely obvious.
I don't see anything that requires genocide, or that another country couldn't provide... Hell, we have a LHD out there 24/7 and SSBNs are kind of our thing if it goes nuclear, they can be anywhere and don't need to be close.
The only thing stopping other countries from holding Israel accountable is the US. Israel can genocide helpless civilians just fine, but not everyone else who has a distaste for genocide and a grudge against Israel anyways.
So, like I was saying, Israel needs the US waaaaaay more than the US needs Israel.
Do you really think the entire western world is pissing off their citizens for fun? You really don't understand geopolitics at all. The support for Israel isn't just for shits and giggles, governments are sending them billions and have very good hidden reasons(military). The primary rule of Proxy wars is "don't talk about proxy wars" which is why the public is so mad, and the governments are going to keep supporting them anyways.
Iran has done an excellent job of sacrificing Palestinian lives to turn the PR against Israel. You think Israel want's to be killing civilians? They actually don't, it's bad for their image. Unfortunately Hamas literally sets up bases in schools, hospitals, and other civilian areas because they're literally using human shields and you're acting like Israel is just supposed to ignore them? This is how urban guerrilla warfare works. It's dirty as fuck, and there's no better options.
The only thing stopping other countries from holding Israel accountable... Yea, NO SHIT. The US is THE military superpower for the western world and they aren't willing to give up that strategic location. It's not just the US though, everyone from the UK to Canada is saying "please stop" while still sending financial support. It's a PR issue at this point for governments, but they'll keep working on the problem and keep sending money.
You act like the US has other weapons that can ignore distance but you can't just shoot everything from the other side of the globe, it's far too expensive to hit more than a handful of targets that way.
Yes. Clearly they do
If they wanted to actually kill civilians, why is the death count such a low percentage of the population?
It would be trivial for them to be killing more, and yet they aren't.
What kind of logic is that?
It's a war, and this time Hamas started it. Should they expect no consequences for killing a thousand Israeli civilians?
Killing innocent civilians should never be a valid response to the killing of innocent civilians.
Israel absolutely had a right to respond, they don't have the right to kill thousands of non-combatants and displace 1.7 million people.
https://www.unfpa.org/occupied-palestinian-territory
Unfortunately, this sort of over-response is how Israel reacts to the Palestinians.
"Oh, we caught you throwing rocks? Yeah, we're going to bulldoze your house."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_demolition_of_Palestinian_property
So how many are they allowed to kill? Zero? The same number? Double? Where's the line?
Overresponse can be a great way to end wars. See historical examples such as the USA nuking Japan, the german blitzkreig, and even Ghengis khan completely wiping cities off maps.
Even on a smaller scale, like if you want someone to stop punching you in the hallway at school, beating the shit out of them frequently works to end the behaviour.
Innocent civilians? Yeah, should be zero or as near zero as you can get.
But when you have an aid convoy, intentionally targeted car by car, when they KNEW they were non-combatants? Beyond the pale.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/05/14/gaza-israelis-attacking-known-aid-worker-locations
That's beyond "well, we have a right to defend ourselves."
Projecting power, we have NATO bases all over europe surrounding Russia surrounding China, for US citizens those counties having boots on the ground in a war on our soil, is laughable. That's not a mutual reality. We can be mobile and opporating in their countries in 12hrs tops. Isreal and Qutar provide that same reality in the muddle east.