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A hypothetical scenario (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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If you had the power to implement any social/economical order in the US today, what would that order be and how would you implement it (step by step) - elaborate (characters of peoople in charge of important roles in society, political order, flag change, national goals, foreign policy, etc.). It can be a mash of political/social orders, doesn't have to be a particular one, you can call it whatever you like. The same goes for the rest of the social roles and political order, doesn't have to be written in books, it can be a mash of whatever you think is right for the particular scenario.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First thing that would need to be done would be to set up a socialist government modelled on existing socialist states. Next, the government would expropriate private wealth from the billionaires. All private banks would be abolished and replaced with a publicly owned central bank.

With that in place, all private enterprise would be required to be cooperatively owned, and VC funding would be replaced by the central bank. People who would want to start businesses would be required to submit a proposal to the central bank in order to get initial loans or grants.

Finally, all the things that are common concerns and should be done without a profit motive would be handled by state owned enterprise. In particular this would include like infrastructure, healthcare, education, food, and energy production.

State industry would also be used to provide job guarantee and set the bar for things like employment benefits. Anybody who wants a job would be guaranteed a job in public sector.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about social labor, we used to have that back in Yugoslavia, it was a nice way to meet people, plus the food was good and it was also paid in some cases (not much, but enough to cover expenses as a student - education was free back then, so don't compare to how much uni is worth now in the US).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's a really good concept as well. I think it would be cool to also make production facilities available to people on time sharing basis. So, if a bunch of people wanted to make a project they could get access to manufacturing, computer resources, etc. Imagine how much innovation could happen if people could use state resources to do large scale hobby projects.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We used to kinda have that back in Yugoslavia. There was this national agency called Narodna Tehnika (it translates to technical resources for the people... more or less). It was mostly meant for kids to learn the basics of how things are produced and made, but it also had some production facilities with some larger scale machines at disposal to the people (lathes, engravers, welding appliances, etc.). They were free for use, you just had to schedule a time when you'd like to use them (time share concept basically).

I had this idea proposed to our local community. Every parking zone should have 1 car floor pit that can be used by anyone that is a paying customer of that zone (mostly locals in mind, but anyone that has paid to park there, can use the pit). You could do simple fixes there, like oil changes or maybe just check for leaks. You park your car there, bring your own tools, that was it. Their main concern was bad drivers and them failing to park the car correctly above the pit (not drop one of the weels in the pit), which is a valid point, but this could've been avoided with some intelligent engineering of the pit (sensors that will tell you that you're not approaching the pit from the right angle and you might drop the car in the pit). It was shot down as being too complicated to put into practice.

I just hate how capitalism works. If it's easy and has a lot of benefits, implement it. If it's a bit more complicated, drop the idea 😒.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's really awesome. Yugoslavia was such a huge loss. It did a lot of stuff better than USSR in my opinion. And the pit idea is pretty cool, doing these kinds of things within the community is a really great way for people to socialize. I guess one way to fix the driver problem is just have one of the people at the pit who is a known good driver drive the car over the pit.

Capitalism is truly terrible, especially when it comes to social relations. It's pretty much designed to alienate people.