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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Remember when presidential scandals were about the guy wearing a tan suit instead of a dark colored one? Pepperidge farm remembers.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That wasn't about the suit, in case you were unclear on that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can you enlighten us? From what I recall, the extent of that "controversy" was that Obama's tan suit wasn't solemn enough to wear to a conference about war.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

He was black in the White House. That's what those people objected to.

Plenty of Presidents have worn tan suits and no one objected:

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Or getting a consensual blowjob.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, me as a south European kid I had an hard time to understand where the issue was there 😅 Sure power imbalance but more something to frown upon rather than the huge deal it became.

I think it is better that that kind of “scandals” are not happening any more

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a kid back then, I was "scandalized," in the sense that to me politicians represented, or are supposed to represent, a model of societal excellence. I was laughing while I typed that. But I was a kid. What the fuck did I know?

Today, I'd say "as long as they're doing their jobs and they're not harming anyone, who the fuck cares what they do with their private life?" Of course, the whole power imbalance is problematic. So I guess these matters can be treated on a case-by-case basis.

I'd rather have blowjob scandals than the nazi rhetoric normalizing we have today.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Power imbalance is problematic, and we shouldn't give Bill a pass for it. Not even mere lampshading.

That said, Republicans clearly aren't interested in power imbalances. Addressing that consistently would collapse their entire ideology. This is something where only the left has criticism that can be consistent with their principles.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Let's be honest. The power imbalance takes away/overrides the consent.

Edit: guess coerced consent is consent, been doing it wrong all this time apparently lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I guess. But I'm not going to argue about that because that would be a red herring.

My point is, I'd rather deal with that than a moron being found as a rapist and a traitor, and people not caring.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Is just a fact. What is amazing is that the democrats will devour their own for the slightest slip (or a consensual photo) yet the repubs will let ride, well, almost anything one of theirs does and make contortionists look stiff while doing it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I remember when the biggest political scandal was Obama using the wrong brand of mustard.