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cross-posted from: https://lemmit.online/post/3069765

The United States faces a shortage of energetics and propellants for munitions

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The original was posted on /r/ukrainianconflict by /u/Mil_in_ua on 2024-06-01 14:38:27+00:00.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Gunpowder ? I'm a complete layman but wasn't gunpowder used in old guns that the user had to refill manually ? I understand it is sold in detail nowadays ? For what usage ?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Gunpowder is used in all ammunition. You're probably thinking of black powder, which was used with percussion caps, flintlocks, and matchlock rifles. But commercial ammunition, artillery shells, and even the big guns on naval vessel still use gunpowder.

But yes, you can still load your own ammunition. You generally have to buy the primer (you could make them, but lead styphnate is really dangerous to fuck around with; mercury (III) fulminate is even worse), but you can re-use the bass casings. You can mold your own bullets if you want to, and there are ways of swaging on a brass or copper jacket, but most people buy the projectiles. Then you buy the gunpowder, and combine them to get the desired chamber pressure and muzzle velocity to get the ballistic characteristics you want.

As for the why - Well, the excuse I tell myself is that, generally speaking, the components individually cost less than the complete ammunition will cost at retail. If you load 9mm ammunition, you might save $.01-.02/bullet, which really only matters at higher shooting volumes, but you have much more control over the exact ballistic characteristics. For rifle ammunition, the savings can be pretty significant. IIRC, cost for 6.5CM ammunition starts at about $1.25/bullet, but I can get brass for about $.20/ea, a primer for $.10, and appropriate powder for about $.15, and a Hornady ELD-M 147gr bullet for about $.50 (or a bit less); that saves me a minimum of $.35 each bullet.

(But really? I enjoy it.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

That's so cool, thanks for the primer (😉). I didn't know any of that !

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For making your own ammo I think

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, all you need is a scale, powder, shell casing and the bullet, and it's like building a Lego set.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It's a little more complicated than that, mostly because you don't have to worry about building a Lego set incorrectly and having it explosively deconstruct itself in your hands. :) But broadly, yeah, unless you get really deep into the weeks, like wildcat cartridges, or swaging your own bullets, it's pretty much assembling the 'right' components.