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“Communists” crying over dead occupation soldiers and fascists, equating fascists to those who resist genocide
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It's the dunk tank.
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What do ultras even believe? I can't decipher this nonsense looking at their sub.
That the only true proletarian revolution in human history was in 1917 and then after that it was immediately corrupted and no other revolution happened ever again. They like to say they are more Leninist than Lenin, but in reality they are more Trotskyist than Trotsky.
There is no urgency among them to take any type of action, form any type of organization, support any kind of cause, and in fact doing any of that is derided and mocked.
n00b question, but are Trots ultras?
Some Trots are, but even traditionally sharply critical trots like Cliffites (who will call AES "State Capitalism") will at least pay lip service to critical support. In practice....they're often too far on the critical and too short on the support for that to hold
That said a lot of groups traditionally considered "ultra" like Councilcoms, Left-Maoists of the "Little Deng" type, even some An Syns have supported AES while also being sharply critical. It's Mostly Bordigists and Gonzalists and individual groups that have gone to the "Bad Crazy".
Trotsky himself was kinda all over the place with praxis from opportunist to ultra in different times, and various trot orgs are often doing the same. Not always, but often.
I once saw a thread there (highly upvoted) claiming that communists should have done revolutionary defeatist in the soviet union during ww2. They are basically lapdog of fascism with a red coat. I have seen a high number of ultras being sympathetic to fascists.
Usually Bordigists, of the Italian Communist Party. It's a fork of Orthodox Marxism that accepts Lenin but denounces Marxism-Leninism.
This subreddit is leftcom whereas "ultra" gets used a bit more broadly, for example Chinese communists have used it to refer to their "the cultural revolution was good actually" side of the left.