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Reported Ukrainian attack on a key radar site could trigger retaliation, an expert analysis shared by the Austrian armed forces says

A reported Ukrainian attack on a Russian early-warning radar installation may have been approved by the US and poses the risk of a nuclear escalation, an analysis published by the Austrian armed forces has warned.

Ukrainian sources claimed last week that Kiev had delivered a strike at a Voronezh-DM site in Russia’s southern Krasnodar Region, near the city of Armavir.

The alleged operation is significant, considering that the facility is part of Russian nuclear deterrence, according to a text by Colonel Markus Reisner and posted by the Austrian military on Sunday.

It is unlikely that attacking the radar station had direct military value for Kiev, Reisner argues. Disabling it would reduce the amount of intelligence that Russia collects on Ukrainian launches of US-donated ATACMS ballistic missiles, he added. But the station is designed to detect intercontinental ballistic missiles that fly at altitudes much higher than the tactical weapons used by Ukraine.

The expert suggested that the alleged attack may have been a US-sanctioned response to Moscow’s reminders that it could use non-strategic nuclear weapons under certain circumstances. Senior Ukrainian and Western officials have called those statements a form of blackmail. Earlier this month, President Vladimir Putin ordered tactical nuclear exercises in the Southern Military District, which borders Ukraine. Moscow said this was in response to increasingly hostile rhetoric by Western officials.

”If this is indeed the case, two further conclusions can be drawn: first, the situation in Ukraine is extremely serious and, second, the war over Ukraine has escalated again,” Reisner wrote. Such an attack could qualify for a nuclear retaliation, the colonel added.

Russia’s nuclear doctrine says that its nuclear arsenal may be used in four scenarios, one of which is “enemy action against critical Russian government and military facilities, the disabling of which would prevent a nuclear response.”

Over-the-horizon radar stations, such as the Voronezh-DM, are meant to detect ICBM launches and inform the national leadership, at which point officials can make a decision on whether to fire back.

The Russian Defense Ministry has so far not commented on the alleged attack.

This is incredibly dangerous. This is brazen flirting with nuclear war.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I get that but Russia setting off a nuke in a “harmless” area could be considered a first strike and therefore give a “reason” for NATO to start bombarding them with their own. I don’t know if it’s worth it. I genuinely see this strike as a provocation for Russia to send a nuclear bomb just so the west can justify finally sending their own.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Perhaps, but I feel rallying populations to go fight a nuclear armed foe in a nation that, let’s be real, the average Westerner wouldn’t have given two shits about on February 22, 2022 seems like a tall order. However I can see how Russia would likely wait until things get totally untenable first… especially given the fact that they’re already comfortably winning the war.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The west has not and never will invite retaliatory full-scale nuclear launch and the end of their hegemony and civilization in order to avenge Russia nuking a field in Ukraine. It's curious to me that anyone thinks this. If they're intent on trying to nuke Russia first to take them out, they'll invent a pretext after the fact rather than waiting for one.

It would be unreasonable for the US to respond with multiple nuclear detonations to one detonation. Where would they do it? For what purpose? Outside their own borders? Irritating their own citizens and stirring up anti-nuclear sentiment. If they strike in Ukraine at Russian troops with nukes Russia will retaliate and Ukrainians will be upset a bit by the nuclear exchange happening entirely in their borders. Black Sea might be a good place for a detonation. Visible from Ukraine. Problem is clearing shipping and such ahead of time.

Russia absolutely needs to draw a line in the sand. They are being salami-sliced by western escalation tactics and they need to do something. One thing would be nuking a NATO base but that would demand retaliation from NATO for reasons of face. However dropping a nuclear weapon in Ukraine on non-civilians, not even on Ukrainian troops just as a show and a warning they're serious would show Russian resolve and give NATO no recourse to striking back without inviting back a full on nuclear exchange which they aren't willing to jump to.