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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Libertarians are people who imagine living in their idea of personal, fictional, utopia. Their utopia is one where they pay for only what they want, nobody else gets any of their money, corporations will do no harm, and somehow, magically, they have all the conveniences of modern life.

They just completely ignore that their miserly financial outlook undoes centuries of understanding that an educated society reduces poverty, crime, and unrest, hence the need for public education. Corporations still cause environmental ruin and poison the land, sea, and air…as if giving them minimal or free rein would improve that. Usually their solution to anyone intruding on their ideal world is to shoot them, no need to pay for cops.

In other words, they’re all about their Liberty to do what ever they want. Their version of liberty for you is “You’re free to sink, swim, or die on your own.” They just assume they’ll always be fine or have enough money to do whatever they need. No need to chip in for anyone els’s health care if a) they can’t pay for their own or b) they have their money to pay for theirs, and you’re not getting any of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

In other words, they’re all about their Liberty to do what ever they want.

I disagree. What you are describing is positive liberty. Libertarianism, generally, aligns more with negative liberty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Libertarians are the right wing version of 20 year old socialists who want free stuff and have no understand of what really drives and motivates people.

I tend to lean left but I'm incredibly disappointed with the state of the political landscape.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Libertarians are, typically, just republicans who dont want the label or baggage, at least from every single one I've ever seen or interacted with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

In my experience, libertarians tend to be extremely moderate conservatives who don't want to submit to God.