this post was submitted on 23 Jul 2023
335 points (99.7% liked)

196

16462 readers
1902 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Look up "horseshoe theory", might explain a few things

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

do you unironically believe in horseshoe theory?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The horseshoe theory is bullshit not because tankies and nazis don't behave similarly, but because they're not the two logical extremes of the same spectrum. You can be far left without being a tankie by just not being a bootlicker, and you can be far right without being a nazi by (you guessed it) also not being a bootlicker. Even with how many boots you lick the left/right division of the political spectrum is still horribly reductive, but it's super important to split the axis of authoritarianism vs liberalism out of it when addressing tankies, because they have a lot of colloquially left beliefs with the authoritarianism and anti-progressivism commonly associated with the right wing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't buy that they have the same beliefs, but it's interesting how the methods have some similarities — the stances definitely have significant enough differences though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Wow, hold on, you're saying people who want to change society in some way have similar methods? And that these methods are different from people who don't want to change society? Crikey, I'm gonna need you to slow down, these ideas are just too complex, man!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

It's in the encyclopedia of political fallacies somewhere between "it isn't corruption if it's legal" and trickle down economics.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*look up "lying about being a socialist/feminist", might explain a few things

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nah I've met some that genuinely believe the stuff they're saying. Definitely there's a lot of people just bullshitting to create outrage though.