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Apple wants to claim depictions of actual apples.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

this whole argument is preposterous on its face to blame apple for anything when the problem is the laws which allow it. where's the outrage for the swiss apple company with their trademarked apple logo? nowhere.

you hate apple, and that's the source of the outrage and why you blame them rather than the courts and legislatures for their crappy IP laws.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By this logic, if there's a law somewhere that unintentionally allows them to crush orphans, they aren't malicious to do so.

Apple and other corporations lobby for this kind of crappy IP law, so they can sue people.

Apple expanded into this market recently and are pretending to be the incumbent apple themed brand in that space in the whole world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

By this logic, if there’s a law somewhere that unintentionally allows them to crush orphans, they aren’t malicious to do so.

That's not logic, that's a logical fallacy:

False equivalence

A false equivalence or false equivalency is an informal fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency. Colloquially, a false equivalence is often called "comparing apples and oranges."

or in this case, comparing a copyright claim to mass child murder... also...

Apple and other corporations lobby for this kind of crappy IP law, so they can sue people.

prove that Apple lobbied the Swiss government for this law or for a favorable outcome. I'm pretty confident that you can't, and that you're making up this claim because you can't make an argument without fabricating claims

Apple expanded into this market recently...

Apple products have been available for purchase in Switzerland for decades.

...and are pretending to be the incumbent apple themed brand in that space in the whole world.

i don't think you know what the word "incumbent" means, but you not liking apple or the fact that they're prolific or popular is not tantamount to a crime. it's pretty entitled to claim that your personal opinion should have any bearing on the legality of another person's or company's actions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apple lobbies for laws that benefit them all the time. Note that this is a general statement, and not about their activity in Switzerland, just like my previous statement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/11/20/apple-uighur/

https://readsludge.com/2023/01/23/apple-spent-record-amount-on-lobbying-as-it-fought-antitrust-legislation/

https://mobilesyrup.com/2022/03/16/apple-google-lobby-group-backs-weak-us-privacy-laws/

https://lobbycanada.gc.ca/app/secure/ocl/lrs/do/clntSmmry?clientOrgCorpNumber=363634&sMdKy=1627941425600

Apple watches have not been available for decades.

I'm trying to convey that Apple is an exploitative company. If this offends you, that's weird, is your laptop the lynchpin in your personality?

I'm sorry for triggering you I'll try to be more sensitive of your needs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry for triggering you I'll try to be more sensitive of your needs.

Dude fuck off with that shit. Have an intelligent conversation or get the hell out of here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except none of that is in Switzerland. Thanks for proving that you don’t know what you’re talking about and are making things up as justification for your hurt feelings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I guess I am making things up, I thought this was a watchmaker.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Found the low effort Reddit comment