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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Stopping shipments of weapons clearly isn't going to be enough. We need to start destroying their military posts

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That is not a reasonable first step.

Biden has paused and threatened to stop weapons shipments, but those only ever included offensive weapons.

They have a defensive anti-rocket system that requires regular shipments from the US. Biden never threatened to cut those supplies off, nor has he threatened to cut off any of the other aid they receive.

Stopping all weapons shipments would change their behavior. Better thing to try instead.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

He only blocked 500 and 2000 pound bombs specifically, too. They can buy all the planes, guns or smaller bombs they want for now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure. The purpose of the defensive weaponry is, well, defensive. Stopping civilian deaths.

With how things are now, I think it would only make things worse. Netanyahu isn't going to pull back if the US stops giving defensive aid. And when civilians inevitably die, he'll either shrug, or use it as further justification to continue.

In essence, it won't have any effect. I think the best thing to do would be supporting Netanyahu's opposition to launch a coup, with our support conditional on them withdrawing completely from Gaza and letting Palestinians form their own state.

Either way, there won't be any progress until Netanyahu is out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The country exists because of us support. All of their neighbors hate them. Cutting off all military aid would be crippling, not something that could be ignored.

The us has a ton of leverage without a coup or invasion. Better to start with that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Netanyahu would not care. And a lot of their neighbors are on much friendlier terms with them than before even. Jordan helped with stopping the Iranian counterattack, and I believe a few other nearby countries opened their airspaces to the US and company as well.

In terms of actual hate, it's really just Iran and Iranian linked militias. If the Iranian people successfully overthrew their theocracy, most of the threats would end to Israel. There's been considerable unrest and protest in Iran lately.

The way I see it, it's a win win opportunity. Help the Iranians retake control of their country, help Netanyahu's opposition take control and make it conditional on them behaving. It should make the region significantly calmer and allow us to stop sending defense to Israel and instead rebuild Gaza.