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A serious red line has been crossed: America’s democratic freedoms, expansive on paper, will simply not tolerate serious dissent on the U.S.–Israel relationship. As criticisms of Israel have become more mainstream, the attempt to shut them down entirely has become more extreme.

In pursuit of this blank-check relationship with an Israeli government that is becoming ever-more intransigent with each passing year, pro-Israel forces in the U.S. are attacking our own democratic freedoms in order to suppress public outcry about apartheid and potential genocide 6,000 miles away. And, if the recent campus crackdowns are any indication, these forces are winning their battle.

With tens of thousands of Palestinians left dead and the Israeli assault on Gaza ongoing, the U.S. protests targeting university ties with Israel over the last month — voluble and outspoken — have been overwhelmingly nonviolent.

Yet these nonviolent protests have met with the full brutal force of the U.S. security state. Dispersing the protest encampments, police have viciously beaten protesters, fired rubber bullets, and enveloped students in dense clouds of tear gas.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Have you seen any videos of people attacking Jewish people?

If it’s that prevalent then there must be hundreds of such videos.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The articles I shared above have first hand accounts as well as statistics. Most of the attacks are verbal, some physical, harassing emails, and doxxing. Are you suggesting it’s not happening without video?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Im suggesting it’s not happening at a level which would be more than 1% of protesters.

Verbal isn’t worth shit. People have something to gain by lying.

How come we can find videos of people peacefully protesting but all this violence seems to be done off camera?

Are you suggesting that the protesters actually hate Jews and they don’t care about Palestinians?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not at all. I’m stating, as well as the articles I’ve provided, that there are people that confuse Israel with Jews, and then attack Jews out of ignorance. That’s what Biden is speaking against.

You’re taking the criticism personally, but it’s not directed at all protestors. It’s directed at the ones that can’t discern the difference between protests and attacks, or Israel and Jews. It’s that simple.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And would you like to put a percentage on the protesters with ill intent?

To me it seems like an insignificant amount, and perhaps we should be focusing on the people with a good message and not focus on the few assholes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As someone who has attended many protests, I can say wholeheartedly that zero is the only acceptable percent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I too attend protests, every Saturday in Manchester. Nobody here is being antisemitic.

Sure we should strive for zero, but should we let 1 out of 1000 people define our protest?

That seems to allow the MLM to portray us all as antisemite bigots and not people who want Israel to stop murdering people and using our tax money to do so.

It’s strange how during pro Islam marches that they don’t want to do anything about the bigots being racist. Suddenly that’s free speech.