Okay, I feel like anyone that thought that they had a chance of winning was drinking the Kool aid anyway, it's obvious they can't win, not even a war of attrition.

I'm someone who loves history, and global politics, and although not literally recognized as an expert or anything, it's super obvious that without the constant flow of aid Ukraine would've fallen in less than 8 months.

What we have now is a proxy war where the EU and US are propping up a losing nation, but soon they will either surrender or be conquered unless the US or Europe directly intervene.