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A CSIS officer's allegation that she was raped repeatedly by a superior in agency vehicles set off a harassment inquiry, but also triggered an investigation into her that concluded the alleged attacks were a "misuse" of agency vehicles by the woman.

She is the same officer whose sexual assault allegations in a story published by The Canadian Press prompted public pledges of reform last year from David Vigneault, the director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service.

The officer said she was never told she was the subject of an investigation, or that it concluded she committed misconduct by using "service equipment" to conduct what the investigator's report said was a "romantic relationship with a colleague."

The woman said she believed the investigation was reprisal for her rape complaint, and she only found out about the probe this year, 10 months after its conclusion, when she made an access-to-information request for her personal information held by the service.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

CSIS are spies. So ASAB.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I can only speak for myself and not OP here but if she left, then ~~probably~~ possibly not. The career folks? Definitely. If their hiring profile is anything like that of the CIA, they have a specific preference for sociopaths/narcissists-- folks who are very good at manipulating others.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

She took the job there in the first place. She probably did that job for some amount of time. And she must have fit the profile if they hired her in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Maybe I'm being naive, but in the absence of solid evidence, my working assumption is that they have some satellite pattern of people who have parts of the spectrum of traits they want, but not all of them. If so, then that means that although they would suppress it for the job, some of them surely have a conscience.

But I admit this is all hypothetical, just based on things I've read and some specific testimony I heard in a podcast that shed more light on things recently.

Anyway, I did a slight edit above: ~~probably~~ --> "possibly."

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My sister in-law moonlights as an EMT and firefighter when she's not a cop. Is she a bastard then?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's always a chance she's a "good apple" that just hasn't washed out yet but otherwise the answer is probably yes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The full saying is “a few bad apples will spoil the bunch.” Because if you toss a rotting apple into a barrel of good apples, the off-gassing from the rotting apple will quickly rot the good ones. You’ll quickly end up with an entire barrel of bad apples, due to adding one bad apple to the barrel.

Even “good” cops will quickly turn rotten, because they’ll be forced into covering for the “bad” cops. Because if they don’t cover for the bad cops, they get forced out.

Thus, all cops are bastards. Because if someone is a cop, they’re either a bad cop or covering for bad cops (and are thus, a bad cop themselves.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Right, meaning she's a bastard, or is new enough in her career that she just hasn't quit yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

All cops eventually become bastards or quit.

I.e. the good apples eventually rot too or get removed from the bushel.