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Has anyone done a decent comparison between USA and USSR during height of Cold War for carbon footprint per capita? Would be interesting to see what the differences were. That said might still be flawed, since USSR had to behave in certain ways as a response to USA capitalism, so hard to say if it would reflect communism carbon footprint not distorted by strong external pressure.
The comparison of China to the US per capita emissions is a pretty clear example too.
Forgot to add, this comparison is even more skewed in chinas favor as a lot of that emitting is on behalf of industries supplying American/western product needs, so a sort of outsourced carbon footprint in a way.
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Yeah I buy that—they have, or at least had, an immense about of population as rural peasants. Also their individual modes of co sumptuous are way less than an avg American. I think this comparison works fine, but the US/USSR one would be enjoyable because they were both so neck and neck and directly competing. China is too, but it’s more of an underdog coming for the aging alpha’s neck kinda deal, whereas USA and USSR have this 40-50 year race. Anyhow, I think it would mostly be safe to assume that generally carbon footprint would be lower under communism. After all, they didn’t have 50+ brands of sugar cereal staring them down when they went to the market.
it doesnt matter the ussr fell in the 90s thats more than 35 years ago climate science wasnt as robust or wide spread as today also carbon footprint can be heavily mitigated with just nuclear for example france i love the ussr but surely we have more modern examples in china and france ?