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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

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0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.


2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such


That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.


3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.


That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


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The only dangerous minority is the rich.


5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

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6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.



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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, hateful. Just because someone else does something stupid doesn't mean you should

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh, yeah, you should be hateful of intolerance. If you aren't, you're hurting those who are getting hatecrimed by conservatives

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why are you generalizing a political movement?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How am I generalizing, beyond pointing out the defining cause behind the movement?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is not a general thing amongst conservatives, that would be ridiculous

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, modern conservatives are ridiculous. Haven't you heard?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've seen strong polarization in politics, and people demonizing their opponents. Thinking the majority falls in that extreme spectrum is a ridiculous notion imo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well... if a conservative:

  • supports gay marriage
  • doesn't believe in ROGD or the notion that people become transgender because of social contagion
  • is okay with sex education that includes homosexuality
  • supports transgender athletes
  • supports transgender people using bathrooms according to their gender
  • is okay with drag shows and doesn't believe they're automatically unsuitable for children
  • doesn't believe that people of color are inherently more violent/stupid/dangerous/filthy/etc
  • supports schools in teaching even the unsightly parts of the country's history
  • supports immigration
  • supports diversity and inclusion
  • doesn't believe that young people are lazy ungrateful brats
  • doesn't support patriarchy
  • defends women's rights to abortion
  • believes that government should spend more money on helping homeless, drug addicts, disabled, orphans, etc

Is this person still a conservative?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That is a long list, perhaps there's nuance here? Someone can support some of those and not others, and still mostly lean into a particular political direction

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. There's a lot of things that conservatives hate, that's what I was saying since the beginning. And I didn't even mention the hate of non-christians, for example, or for socialists.

And if you support some things but not the others, you're still supporting policies based on hate, so my point stands

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Some people support things based on hate, but unless you can read minds you can't generalize that. And also not all conservatives are christians

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can you give me one singular reason to oppose gay marriage that isn't based on hate?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The meme is about conservatives not liking tattoos, are just just adding this gay-hating claim to justify your hate for them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ok, so you do admit that opposition to gay marriage is based on hate. Good.

And the discussion was about the fact that the vast majority of conservative policies are dictated by fear. Have you forgotten?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

No, I did not, I can't read minds unfortunately. And no, we're in a comment thread about a meme.