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[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Brought to you by decades of Israeli lobbying money mixed with gullible religious morons in the U.S. legislature. Money in politics leads to genocide.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In 2023 Israel spent $4 million in lobbying and got $4 billion in aid. We should pool together and buy ourselves some politicians, y'all. No other investment reliably returns 1000:1.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

We should pool together and buy ourselves some politicians, y’all.

Traditionally, one calls that "forming a party" but unfortunately we live in a two-party system.

It should be noted that the $4B Israel got wasn't just $4B for Israel. It was $4B for purchase of US weapons systems too Israel. And it wasn't just Israel lobbying for this spending. You had a host of MIC lobbyists throwing in their own millions.

It should further be noted that AIPAC isn't just doing a one-time $4M retail purchase of legislation. They've spend decades building up an enormous back bench of former US Congresscritters, allied staffers, political bundlers, event organizers, and religious affiliates. They injected $4M down the funnel in an 11th-hour push for the next traunch of military kick-backs that they've been receiving since the Bush 43 administration.

No other investment reliably returns 1000:1.

Its important to recognize that Israel provides an incredibly vital service to the US military in the form of maintaining control of the Suez Canal. Its not just a 1000:1 ROI. They're holding Egyptian national leadership at gunpoint and we're kicking them over some money to keep the gun loaded.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Re: gullible religious folks in the US.

After 9/11, I remember seeing "Jews for Jesus" pamphlets being passed out by right wing Jewish folks to any person passing by. It was a cynical ploy to use the environment to further right wing Israeli religious interests. Land grabs by way of illegal settlement building has never stopped.

Of course, many, perhaps majority even, of evangelical and fundamentalist christians in America are the most 'useful idiots' since they believe the Rapture requires full support of Israel in order for end times Prophecy to come to fruition.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure the people passing it out were right-wing Jews and not "Messianic Jews?" Because the latter are often people who were raised as Christians, found out they had a Jewish grandmother, then became a Messianic Jew to feel closer to her.

There are also plenty of people who are third-generation Messianic Jew or whatever.

Sure, there are people who are ethnically Jewish and grew up steeped in Jewish culture and religion but one day converted to Christianity, but they aren't the majority of the "Jews for Jesus" crowd.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It could've been, I can only say they wore kippah's and had sidelocks that you'd see in orthodox communities.

(ps i am an atheist btw and respect peoples right to believe in whatever gets you some peace in this life. but also see that wherever religion and politics meet it tends to become problematic. some minority or other will suffer, not to mention loss of basic human rights, oppression, telling other people how they must live their lives, ancient based roles and kingdoms that must be re-established, who they can love, violence, bigotry, etc... and thats no bueno)