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Don't change the subject.
Corbyn was against the EU, and supported Brexit. He made a couple of token comments after pressure from the rest of the party.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/jeremy-corbyn-diane-abbott-labour-tony-benn-brexiteer-b2283014.html
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyns-changing-brexit-stance
Are you saying he was a remainer, or not hard left?
Im not changing the issue, the op said labour are NOW being weak on europe because of the hard left. They are not, the hard left have been purged by Starmer, they are soft on Europe for electoral reasons.
The hard left have been removed by Starmer, you're right. But you can't avoid the fact that the electoral calculus for the Labour party is to appease the massive hard left northern voter base and stay quiet on anything that realigns the UK with the EU.
They might want to win Southern Tory Brexit votes, but that doesn't mean they want to loose Northern Labour Brexit votes. Starmer doesn't want a repeat of 2019 and he's happy to sacrifice closer EU ties as a cost of that potential win. The question is.... Are you?