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I've never seen this angle of Tiananmen Square's tankman before. Figured I would share. (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are photos of dozens dead and tossed to the side like a garbage bag, both on the streets and in hospitals. Do you seriously think that's the sort of thing which happens when only a few people died?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I don't claim a strong position. I suppose if I had to say, I believe the estimates of between 2-800 dead, mostly in the streets surrounding Tiananmen Square, with a dozen or so police lynchings amongst that number. But it would be weird for me to be overly attached to that as an opinion, as the evidence is unclear. I think Beijing hospital records suggest about 400, so that seems like a safe lower estimate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think Beijing hospital records suggest about 400

That'd be the 400 they managed to find with their bodies in a good enough condition to identify. Have you seen the literal human paste?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

Yes, it's a reasonable minimum estimate. What is it that you're disagreeing with? I've certainly seen all the pictures. But have a read about the declassified diplomatic cables, it's interesting. Notably, the mountains of flesh being burned with flamethrowers probably didn't happen. I have no stake in that, it's the current position held by the US Government. What happened is still monstrous.