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'Pay or Okay' explained: Why more and more websites make you pay for your privacy - noyb (noyb.eu)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My biggest concern is they will hold your data hostage if you don't pay or try to leave.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also, how can we be assured the privacy practices of their subscription/payment platform are at least better than the (likely blockable) trackers?

Forming a financial relationship with a website is, theoretically, infinitely more traceable to your personal identity than all the cookies in the world.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

My bank would probably tell everyone before they did.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Can't do that in the EU (thank you GDPR).

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Im in the US. The law dose not apply to businesses who can pay bribes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Join us in the EU 🙂

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How much oil do you have?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

None?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Then, nah.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Unless the US is joining the EU, telling people to move is not a solution but a side-stepping. Side-stepping problems allows them to continue and grow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, they are doing it in spain, the judges recently stated that they can do it, and few days later almost all of the spanish newspappers had it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Care to elaborate?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

This link probably will explain it better than me: https://www.engage.hoganlovells.com/knowledgeservices/news/new-guidance-on-cookies-in-spain

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

but they do this here anyway, at least in germany

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They can, but then that can end up in EU court. If it happened to you, tell the consumer association of your country or your Data Protection Officer. People and companies can do what ever they like, they just have to live with the consequences.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it's been an issue for a long time now and apparently nothing happend since then

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

This is what we're discussing

My biggest concern is they will hold your data hostage if you don’t pay or try to leave.

Are golem, pur, spiegel, and others doing so? Have you tried asking for your data to be deleted and gotten a "fuck you we won't" or no response at all (which is also the equivalent of "fuck you we won't")?

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