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Sadly, this one has a terminal case of the "smug" and won't actually listen to anything you have to say.
It’s always for the other people listening though who will. ;)
l still support the proletariat of Ukraine even as an evil Cheddar Cheese Pringle, but I’ve come to understand that Ukraine’s government does not.
As an aside, do you think ceding Donetsk and Luhansk who were just begging to join Russia anyways would have prevented the war?
Possibly, it certainly would've eased tensions and delayed any actual conflict.
I think Russia is also too concerned about NATO presence on their largest European border to really allow anything other than Ukraine not joining NATO and the cessation of shelling in the Donbass (and honestly, probably annexation of them too). Plus they would probably want Ukraine to officially recognize Crimea as Russian territory. So basically everything they've been trying to do diplomatically for the past decade and have been ignored on. This war could've been easily avoided had the west and Ukraine been willing to work diplomatically. But the west can't profit from that.