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I am going to miss the mute and power buttons when they take them away. (www.telly.com)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Edit: I guess this post is free advertising for these shitters, so I will describe what I previously linked.

There is this TV you can get for free but it has a ads on screen constantly and it has a camera pointed at you to record your reactions to ads and to ensure you don't cover up the ad portion of the screen.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have a 4K dumb TV with no Wi-Fi at all and I've never had any image issues.

[+] [email protected] -21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What does wifi have to do with anything?

And if it upscaled well, it's already got the processing power to have all the apps installed. So, cool it doesn't have that, but it's kind of a waste you don't... And seems a lot more likely you're overestimating it.

But I have a feeling if you look up your TV on rtings you'll be surprised, or find out you bought a weird Black Friday model that's been feature stripped to be as cheap and low quality as possible while marking a couple highlights to advertise on the box.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a "smart TV" is

[+] [email protected] -17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think people don't understand that the processing abilities upscaling needs means adding smart functionality is basically free.

That's why I mentioned looking up the model number, I'm confident what that person said their TV was isn't what it is.

No "dumb" TV is going to be good at upscaling because of that. OP might think it is, but they're probably mistaken about something

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Smart TV defines the extra functionality, not the processing hardware. If a smart TV has the Wi-Fi and streaming services disabled it is by definition NOT a smart TV.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If a smart TV has the Wi-Fi and streaming services disabled

If it's disabled that doesn't mean it disappears...

And no one has linked or provided the model number of a good 4k that doesn't have wifi.

Maybe that's what happening? People think not connecting WiFi means something doesn't have wifi?

Is that what you think?

Edit:

Oh, you're the one who said they own a TV like that...

You could easily prove your point by providing the model number, but you're not, you're just trying to argue.

I don't see the point in someone acting like that unless your trolling, so if you don't want to say the model, I don't see any point in trying to help anymore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

And no one has linked or provided the model number of a good 4k that doesn’t have wifi.

Not trying to necro a post but:

https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV/U550CV-UMR-55-4K-UHD-TV-product959category1category73.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Thanks!

It's good to see Sceptre is still kicking around, I couldn't find any info on what kind of upscaling they're using. But it's probably decent. Good dumb screens have been their niche for at least 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Everything nowdays includes microcontrollers or microprocessors, and often even in-silico (i.e. as hardware not software) implementations of things like decoders.

However it's a huge range of those things and the vast majority doesn't have the processing power and/or hardware petipherals to support "Smart TV" functionality.

For example that upscalling functionality can just be implemented in-silico in a separate chip or as part of the die of a SoC microcontroller for pennies, whilst the actual programmable part doesn't have anywhere the power or memory needed for the code implementing a fancy UI (such as that for a VOD provider such as Netflix) because that would cost tens or hundreds of dollars more (just go check the price of a standalone TV box).

The economics of the thing nowadays do make it worth it for a TV manufacturer to add the extra hardware needed to make the thing a Smart TV (the kinda crap one only costs maybe $10 - $20 or so more) especially if they can use it to shove adverts in front of people to recoup it or sell "Smart TV" as a premium functionality, but that's not at all the same as the HW for stuff like hardcoded algorithms such as upscalling being capable of running the software implementing Smart TV functionality.

Your "argument" is built on top of a serious misunderstanding of modern digital systems.