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It's all "ableism is bad! Support people with mental disorders!"... (beehaw.org)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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...until it is someone with narcissistic personality disorder, psychopathy and sociopathy, but mostly NPD.

EDIT: There seems to be some misunderstandings about this post. It is not an attack on this community or the users here, it's just a general vent I have for the type of people that claim to be anti-ableist until it is something they don't like.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is the most NPD post ever trying to make this comparison. People with disabilities or mental disorders that hurt people when unmanaged SHOULD be treated differently. No it's not the same thing as ensuring blind or people in wheel chairs can get around without assistance or making sure people with autism get job opportunities.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, we suspect my sister is either Borderline or NPD. This is exactly the post she might make equating acceptance for neurodivergent personalities with her own traits that actively hurts others.

And it's to the point that many posters fell for it. I saw this thread much earlier and just couldn't view this as a good-faith statement to even start from - so I didn't engage.

Kinda wish the rest of the fediverse didn't engage with it - I certainly don't view it as an "important conversation" it's laughably manufactured and in bad faith. I have a sense that Beehaw's admin response artificially inflated the importance of this as well.

Quick question, who in the heck is benefiting from this discussion? To me it looks like the trolls are getting the most out of it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The original post is playing the victim card. A classic manipulative tactic.

Other people engaged because that's how manipulation works. I almost engaged before I recognized that I was being manipulated into defending a position on a premise I don't even agree with.

Once you recognize the patterns of manipulative behaviour it becomes easier to stop yourself from engaging. Manipulative people depend on people who can't identify the bullshit.

The other reply to me was also clearly someone trying to manipulate me by saying I say/think/implied things that I didnt. Always best not to engage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Honestly, once I get a whiff I disengage immediately. For me, at this point, it might as well be a neon sign and I'm incredibly grateful for that.

There's no point trying to make them happy with the framing. They want to be unhappy with it and will find a way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

NPD doesn't cause abusive behaviour. That's a made up stereotype.

Also why are you saying this post is bad because "it's the most NPD post ever"? Do you think people with NPD are bad?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Please see my other comment where I gave you a bunch of references to how pwNPD are definitely abusive.