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Empowering you to choose a better internet where privacy is the default. Protect yourself online with Proton Mail, Proton VPN, Proton Calendar, Proton Drive. Proton Pass and SimpleLogin.

Proton Mail is the world's largest secure email provider. Swiss, end-to-end encrypted, private, and free.

Proton VPN is the world’s only open-source, publicly audited, unlimited and free VPN. Swiss-based, no-ads, and no-logs.

Proton Calendar is the world's first end-to-end encrypted calendar that allows you to keep your life private.

Proton Drive is a free end-to-end encrypted cloud storage that allows you to securely backup and share your files. It's open source, publicly audited, and Swiss-based.

Proton Pass Proton Pass is a free and open-source password manager which brings a higher level of security with rigorous end-to-end encryption of all data (including usernames, URLs, notes, and more) and email alias support.

SimpleLogin lets you send and receive emails anonymously via easily-generated unique email aliases.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
 

I just had few basic question about the iOS automatic upload for photos

First will it upload all albums or can I choose which albums it will upload?

Second will deleting a picture from drive delete in photos or vise versa, I’m assuming they’re independent of each other apart from the automatic upload

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3 password managers at same time 🧐 :

My older version of a Firefox browser remember most of my passwords (I am ok how it works), but some important passwords are also stored in KEEpass and not in Firefox. Then there is a ProtonPass which can import both Firefox CSV and KeePass XML.

Problem with import and synchronization of these managers is that the

  1. Pass is not made to deduplicate the imported data (some imported logins may already be in vaults), which requires user to delete Pass logins prior importing a .csv file (importing because file contains more up to date logins).

  2. import does not contain 2FA secrets nor aliases (aliases deleted in Pass can not be restored into Pass at the time of writing - June 2024).

Firefox and Proton Pass - PROS and CONS (as of June 2024):

Quality of suggested logins:

⛔️ Firefox (old ver.) suggests all passwords saved across whole website incl. its subdomains which is messy

✅ Pass: suggests only passwords for a present page (not subdomains) = good

⛔️ Pass: does not automaticaly complete/suggest login when typing into username field and the list of saved logins is not alphabetically sorted by the username.

Speed:

✅ Firefox: shows saved logins instantly

⛔️ Pass: 1 second delay of a Proton Pass drop down menu with login username suggestions comparing to Firefox which loads immediately and gives impression that it loads even before login page finished loading. Both password managers loads at same time on user mouse click into the login field. Delay of a ProtonPass happens only when the suggestion menu should appear automatically upon loading a login page.

Registration form suggestions:

✅ Firefox: suggests previously used usernames/emails when typing, which is fine

🆗 Pass: does suggest anything when i type, as already mentioned. When I click, it suggests main ProtonMail address and allows generating unique alias which is very important key feature

🆗 Pass: password generating box shows non-important confirmation of a successfully copied password, which hides after like 2 seconds, making impossible to read the next form field during that time, which is annoying.

Login form suggestions:

⛔️ Pass: does not offer any login suggestion on a Basic HTTP Auth (.htaccess password protection of a directory) forms (popup) of mine (site: ILF admin, C*A/my)

Other:

⛔️ Pass: in Firefox i think it sometimes gets logged out requring to spend time re-login which may require 2FA auth from other device or other password manager.

✅ Pass: editing, grouping of passwords seems a bit better than Firefox

✅ Pass: Integrated 2FA

✅ Pass: Pass monitor in paid plan, password strength/leak indication

PROS vs CONS. What to do?

ProtonPass is a bit slower than Firefox, yet it has its advantages - email alias generating, 2FA....

SimpleLogin browser extension can be used for Proton aliases and if you do not need 2FA, it may be easier to stay with just Firefox, which is enough safe manager since I am already making backups of a Firefox (incl. passwords - which are also synced E2EE to the Mozilla cloud https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/sync#w_is-it-secure).

Other option is to use Pass only for aliases and 2FA and inside its General settings, disable passwords saving and filling, letting Firefox do this job.

Third manager (for example KeePassXC) can serve as a backup, it can also import exports of Pass and Firefox. I guess it would be good to backup any password manager (incl. Pass) data regularly on schedule.

What are your suggestions/feedback regarding this?

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Firefox 115.12.0esr with Pass 1.17.4

On various pages including https://lemmy.ml/signup when I click 1st time into a email or password field, Pass shows a "suggestion" box, when I click one more time into that form field, the box now fails to hide even i click outside of it. Workaround is to click into different form field.

Anyone is experiencing the same? On which platform/pass version?

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LAN bypass on Linux (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
 

Hi all,

Is there a conf change I can make to bypass local address filtering with ProtonVPN on Linux? When I attempt to access NFS and SMB shares on LAN they fail to connect with Proton active.

Thanks!

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Summary: I wanted to see if I can synchronize Firefox and ProtonPass passwords. It works more or less. One just need to pay attention to using only one or another for saving passwords and if later wanted to switch, just delete outdated app passwords database and import other app passwords. NOTE: If you choose to delete ProtonPass logins and import 3rd party logins, it will possibly NOT import your 2FA secret and aliases (you would have to move these to a separate vault before deleting everything else!

Here is exactly written on what i did and what I have faced in July 2024 (maybe later version of the Proton Pass will work better).

After backing up Firefox browser data/profile and exporting its passwords at "about:logins" page (three dots in the top corner), i have deleted all Firefox passwords (from same three dots menu). Then enabled Firefox passwords import (there were no import entry in that three dots menu) by going to "about:config" and searching for "signon.management.page.fileImport.enabled" double-clicking "false" to set it to "true". Reloaded "about:logins" page and then again using three dots menu imported the .csv export file made by the Proton Pass. Result:

            New logins added: 1,808
            Existing logins updated: 0
            Duplicate logins found: 28 (not imported)
            Errors: 12 (not imported)

Under details, i could see which rows was problematic (only problem type was "Missing url") and after opening .csv file in a Calc editor i could see that the problematic rows were indeed "missing url" (or anything) in "url" row but the "name" field had the domain name. The problematic rows were almost exclusively Proton aliases (and these does not need any fixing and their later import into Proton Pass failed anyway - in the current version of the Pass that I have used), yet not knowing that at the moment, I have fixed all rows with missing url by copying name into url and prefixing with https:// using Linux command:

awk 'BEGIN{FS=OFS=","} $3=="" {$3="https://" $2} 1' "input.csv" > output_tmp && mv output_tmp "output.csv"

For Windows, this may work: for /f "tokens=1-7 delims=," %a in (input.csv) do @echo %a,%b,%c,%d,%e,%f,%g,%h,%i >> output_tmp && move /y output_tmp output.csv

Upon import of the fixed file, there was same number of errors and this time it was "Missing password".

I did insert a random passwords by modifying previous command like this: awk 'BEGIN{FS=OFS=","} $5=="" {$5="ng21@Ak" $9} 1' "input.csv" > tmp && mv tmp "output.csv"

.csv file can be opened inside LibreOffice Calc (or other table processor), where it is visible in easy to read format.

So after all, import from Proton Pass using .csv file was successful (despite a few harmless errors).

Opposite direction - synchronizing from Firefox to ProtonPass may be problematic. At least in my case was. Because Proton Pass did not delete any duplicates. So if Proton Pass is outdated and Firefox has all ProtonPass items(logins) + new items, it can be done as follows, yet please note that deleting Pass logins and importing 3rd party app logins (Firefox) will possibly not import 2FA settings, so if you are using 2FA, make sure you save private keys so you can setup it again later - keys are visible when editing login with 2FA): Export Proton Pass for backup purpose. Create new vault and move to it all email aliases (meaning aliases not regular logins). Delete vault with logins and create new one and fill it with Firefox .csv file.

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Hi everyone,

We’re very grateful for your feedback during the beta testing and are happy to announce that automatic photo backup on iOS is rolling out now and will be available for everyone over the next few days.

Features

  • Automatic backup that can be enabled to sync to the secure cloud at regular intervals
  • End-to-end encryption of biometric data, geographic information, and other important metadata
  • Save images in their original resolution
  • Select any file, video, or photo to easily view them offline 
  • Generate an encrypted file-sharing link with or without password protection for any photo or video, to share with anyone

Let us know what you think! You can also share, vote, and discuss feature requests on User Voice. Thank you, as always, for your feedback and support.

Proton Team

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When there is only one vault in Proton Pass, it seems like the option to Delete vault is inactive/disabled and can not be clicked.

After creating second vault, it worked to delete first (main one). It is a bit weird, no explanation why i was unable to delete.

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Honestly... this isnt the first time this has happened either. Been a paying customer for a long time now, and occasionally I get these upgrade buttons, which I am hoping are just bugs, as otherwise it would be very weird as I cannot upgrade to anything higher than Unlimited.

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When SimpleLogin merged with Proton, proton unlimited members are able to use SimpleLogin premium for free. Is that the case for Standard Notes? I haven't figured out a way to do this.

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Hello,

For the two people that probably have chosen to use the option to import a file through the KDE settings.

If you face the issue where you still see your IP and ISP on ip.me, that might be due to the WiFi configuration having the ipv6 enabled.

Go to WiFi settings and disable the ipv6, reconnect and you should be good to go.

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I'm curious to know what Proton VPN's ad blocker offers, but I don't see any videos or articles showing how it works. So I am addressing VPN users, because there is no free trial unfortunately to try it:

  • Does it block Cookie's banners?
  • Is it necessary for the VPN to be constantly activated to benefit from the block?
  • Is it better than uBlock-Origin?
  • When is the page loading speed consistent?
  • On iPhone, does the battery take a hit?

No one talks about this feature even though it is highlighted by Proton themselves (https://protonvpn.com/en/features/adblocker).

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This week, Apple released in the latest update of iOS and MacOS an application that is simply called "Passwords".

In my opinion, Apple could be a serious competitor to Pass: both provide temporary emails, both manage Passkeys, but what I think sets Apple apart from Proton is the "Connect with Apple" feature. Passwords are also encrypted (for Apple via the default iCloud Keychain).

Of course, Proton does not have the same financial income as Apple, which pushes them, for example, to ask to pay for two-factor authentication. But I stay with Proton because I simply love the values of the company but also because I have my emails, my calendar, my drive that are on Proton.

Now I think it would be interesting for Proton to work on an alternative to "Connect with Google" or "Connect with Apple". What do you think?

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I noticed my battery drained really quickly since getting proton mail, but the energy use in Androids battery report would only show a few percent. I went from being able to go w whole day with plenty of battery left it having to charge once or twice a day. I turned off the background email loading and my battery levels are back to normal.

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This new account selection screen that pops up every single time I visit my inbox is driving me insane. I only have one account. Why do I need to see this account selection screen? What possible benefit could my having to click through that screen have for me or for Proton?

I don't understand what kind of sick, warped mind would devise such a thing.

It's like forcing me to pick my car from a list of one car when I click on the unlock door button on my car key in the morning.

It's like a voice asking me which of my one phone I want to make a call from when I dial a number on that very phone.

It's madness. Absolute Lovecraftian soul-shattering insanity.

Please make this insane screen go away for users who only have one account.

Or make it a setting in my settings that I can toggle on and off.

Also, please make the login screen stop blinking BRIGHT WHITE multiple times during the authentication process. Why does it have to be white?? Of all colors, white!

It's like sadists work at Proton.

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The new Passwords app looks great. I'm gonna stick with @protonprivacy pass though. #WWDC

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I am using the offical Linux Client (4.3.2) on Fedora but the connections are very slow. I played around with the few settings the client offers but it's not getting better. Sometimes the speedtest seems okay with UDP, but when I download large files the speed stays around a few hundred kilobytes per second. Without VPN the same downloads are much, much faster ofc.

Anyone having the same issues? Is anyone even using the official client? Or is it better to directly add the connection? Also the GUI of the VPN client seems to be very slow and buggy.

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from the team:


Hi everyone,

We are pleased to announce that desktop apps for macOS (including a highly requested Safari extension) and Linux are now available, completing our top voted feature request and bringing Proton Pass to all devices: https://proton.me/blog/proton-pass-all-devices

Proton Pass is an open source identity manager, protected by end-to-end encryption, audited by third parties, and backed by strict Swiss privacy laws.

Offline Support

All desktop apps include offline support on paid plans.

Other features

Proton Pass is packed with features to help keep you secure, at home or at work.

  • Unlimited passwords on all your devices
  • Unlimited hide-my-email aliases
  • Integrated 2FA authenticator
  • Secure vault sharing
  • Dark web monitoring
  • Password health reports
  • Passkey support
  • Encrypted notes

Limited time deal $10/ year

Upgrade to Proton Pass Plus by June 16 for only $10* for your first year (discounted from $23.88).

Follow this link to get the deal: https://account.proton.me/pass/signup?&coupon=DPROMO

*Offer available only for free or new Proton Pass users.

What’s next?

Biometric support is coming soon. Stay tuned for updates in the coming weeks!

You can also share, vote on, and discuss feature requests on User Voice. Thank you, as always, for your feedback and support.

Proton Team

EDIT: We're aware of an issue trying with trying to install both Proton Mail and Proton Pass desktop applications on Linux, thanks for your patience! In the meantime, this can be resolved with the following:

sudo rpm -i --force ProtonPass_1.17.5.rpm

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I really love this approach. Many services which increase their subscription prices also do so for existing customers.

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With the free plan I can receive mail to [email protected] address, but if I reply to a message sent to this address I can't edit the sender field before switching to a paid plan. But if I switch plans are those sender addresses limited to any numbe? Note, I'm referring strictly to username+somestring (and username+anotherstring) style addresses, not to addresses that would contain different username part. Those are limited, ofc.

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from the team:


Hi everyone,

We are starting the beta rollout of a new feature on Proton Drive: Private Access Sharing. This feature builds on how sharing currently works on Drive by allowing you to share directly using email addresses. For now, it will be available for the Visionary users who have beta access turned on over the next few days.

Now share directly via email

Private Access Sharing allows you to share files and folders directly with specific individuals via their email addresses, providing you with enhanced control and security over your shared content. With this feature, you can:

  • Share securely: Enter email addresses to share files with specific individuals.
  • Assign viewer or editor permissions: Control who can view or edit your files.
  • Revoke access or change permissions: Stay in control of your files at all times.

Proton Drive will continue to support public link sharing alongside private access sharing.

How to Use Private Access Sharing:

  1. Select files or folders: Choose the files or folders you want to share from your Proton Drive.
  2. Add recipients: Enter the email addresses of the people you want to share with.
  3. Set permissions: Assign viewer or editor permissions.
  4. Send securely: Recipients get an email with a secure link to access the shared files.
  5. Manage access: Revoke or change permissions as needed.

Proton Drive: How to Use Private Access Sharing

During the beta phase, your recipient also needs to be on the beta version to access the items shared with them. They can turn this on via the quick settings by clicking on the gear icon in the top right corner.

Files shared with you via Private Access Sharing will appear in the new Shared with me section.

We invite our Visionary users to try it out and share your thoughts. Your feedback will help us ensure that this feature meets your expectations.

Stay secure,

The Proton Drive Team

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