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u/OverQuestion1159 - originally from r/GenZhou
What I mean by this is, I think it can be agreed that pornography is highly exploitative and has plenty of negatives in it's production and distribution. Yet it seems condemning it is controversial even among those that profess to be socialists, anarchists etc. You'll get called swerf, puritan etc just because you don't think it's good. Strange for people with such principles not to be opposed to a racist, misognystic and rotten industry. So what exactly is the cause of leftists (I should specify western leftists, i'm sure it's different in other parts of the world, particulary in countries that suffer from sex trafficking) that suddenly turn into ancaps when it comes to this topic

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u/The-MT-Sant - originally from r/GenZhou
Taking a modern Chinese History class right now and a lot of it can be your typical weird, Western, propagandistic gobbley gook that amounts to "communism bad China bad". However, we're currently on the section regarding the Cultural Revolution and it seems like something that even the modern Communist Party acknowledges as a mistake, with the rehabilitation of many figures under Deng Xiapoing in the 80s. It also (at least form how it is being taught) seems like something that was simply objectively bad and used as a crackdown on individual rights. We are also required to read "Son of A Revolution" by Liang Heng and Judith Shapiro. Is this a reliable book? Also Do communists typically just look at this era as a mistake made by Mao? Were there any salvageable aspects of this time period? Or should it be looked at as nothing more than a stain on the Party's record and something that needs to be learned from? Furthermore, do you think that the Cultural Revolution was motivated by genuine fear of external pressure attempting to destabilize China or more so the party and Mao's paranoia that a youynger generation wouldn't hold the same fervor for revolution that the generation that actively participated in it did? Lots of questions I know (haha) but any information about Chinese historians, communists, or the CCP views this era would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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u/Luca-511 - originally from r/GenZhou

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u/ouch_oof - originally from r/GenZhou
NOTE: This is not an endorsement of Ceausescu or his policies. He made many mistakes and was not a good leader. However, this rather brief post discusses Romania's economic growth and why it constitutes a post-war miracle economy.

In Comparison with the Asian Tigers and Other Economic "Miracles"

Romania after WW2 was a mostly backwards, third-world country. Even with extremely fast growth, it was still a middle-income country. Plus, a country like Romania was a mostly agrarian one and did not have much industry. The GDP per capita for Romania was slightly below that of India in 1950. However, by around 1984, Romania had a GDP per capita that was 3.7 times higher than that of India and 7.6 times higher than it's original GDP per capita. For comparison, South Korea, who had a widely touted economic "miracle" had a GDP per capita 4.9 times larger than India, and 8.3 times higher than it's original GDP per capita by 1984. Not to mention, the South Korean "miracle" was one that was heavily subsidized by the United States. While Romania did receive foreign credit and loans, it became became indebted and would run into numerous issues in the 1980s. For a full comparison with some other Asian Tigers and post-WW2 "miracle" economies, here is the graph from 1950 (few years after WW2) to 1984 (around the time when the East Bloc countries underwent major liberal reforms). Romania's growth aligns more with the East Asian miracle economies, only marginally behind South Korea and Japan.

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u/seamasthebhoy - originally from r/GenZhou
Also if you are discussing personal experiences or anything more local than the national organizations, could you say what area you are referencing (only if comfortable of course).

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u/lordbootyclapper - originally from r/GenZhou
My mom just sent an article in our group chat from NPR about uyghur students being abused in boarding schools and i feel like there’s just so much information pointing towards there being an issue for there not to be at least some aspect of truth to it. I still want to keep an open mind tho and make sure i’m not being led to a certain conclusion by my western media influences. Can anyone give me some reasoning/explanation behind this? thanks

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u/JITTERdUdE - originally from r/GenZhou
As I’ve been more immersed in ML spaces, I’ve noticed a few people talk about their distrust or disliking towards “ultras”, referring to hardline Maoists, particularly in Western countries. I have read and seen some articles by them, such as this blog post by Black Like Mao which claims China is not a socialist power and is exploiting African countries. They similarly accuse the USSR, Vietnam, and Burkin Faso of the same thing.

Having gone from being an anarchist to a Marxist-Leninist, I try not to just jump on board with mass criticism of other communist ideologies, as many anarchists have with “tankies”, so I’ve been curious to understand the ultra ideology and mindset and critically analysis it.

I wanted to understand ML criticisms and opinions of ultras to understand their disagreements (or agreements) with their beliefs, given I’m not totally familiar with Maoist theory.

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u/FrigginSargonMan - originally from r/GenZhou
I've seen several memes about Maoists and their idealism, but I'd like to learn more about the failings of Maoism and Maoists.

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u/StalinJunior7492 - originally from r/GenZhou

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u/Inevitable-Shake8488 - originally from r/GenZhou
Deng on Stalin:

We think that Stalin's merits and contributions to the revolution exceed his mistakes. Using our Chinese habit, the grades for Stalin are 30 percent for his mistakes and 70 percent for his merits. Also Chairman Mao used to say so and, after the 20th Congress of the Soviet Communist Party, the Chinese Communist Party expressed a very clear evaluation of Stalin. In fact, we said that we would always regard Stalin's works as classical works in the international communist movement. You know, we are also aware of the mistakes committed by Stalin toward the Chinese revolution. When, after the Second World War, there was a rupture between the Chinese Communist Party and the Kuomintang and we engaged in the liberation of war, Stalin was against us. Yet, not even this ever changed our views of him.

Source from this interview

Castro on Stalin:

Q: Fidel, for most Latin American revolutionary leaders, the current crisis of socialism has a mastermind: Josef Stalin.

A: I believe Stalin made big mistakes but also showed great wisdom.

In my opinion, blaming Stalin for everything that occurred in the Soviet Union would be historical simplism, because no man by himself could have created certain conditions. It would be the same as giving Stalin all the credit for what the USSR once was. That is impossible! I believe that the efforts of millions and millions of heroic people contributed to the USSR's development and to its relevant role in the world in favor of hundreds of millions of people.

I have criticized Stalin for a lot of things. First of all, I criticized his violation of the legal framework.

I believe Stalin committed an enormous abuse of power. That is another conviction I have always had.

I feel that Stalin's agricultural policy did not develop a progressive process to socialize land. In my opinion, the land socialization process should have begun earlier and should have been gradually implemented. Because of its violent implementation, it had a very high economic and human cost in a very brief period of history.

I also feel that Stalin's policy prior to the war was totally erroneous. No one can deny that western powers promoted Hitler until he became a monster, a real threat. The terrible weakness shown by western powers before Hitler cannot be denied. This at encouraged Hitler's expansionism and Stalin's fear, which led Stalin to do something I will criticize all my life, because I believe that it was a flagrant violation of principles: seek peace with Hitler at any cost, stalling for time.

During our revolutionary life, during the relatively long history of the Cuban Revolution, we have never negotiated a single principle to gain time, or to obtain any practical advantage. Stalin fell for the famous Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact at a time when Germans were already demanding the delivery of the Danzig Corridor.

I feel that, far from gaining time, the nonaggression pact reduced time, because the war broke out anyway. Then, in my opinion, he made another big mistake, because when Poland was being attacked, he sent troops to occupy that territory, which was disputed because it had a Ukrainian or Russian population, I am not sure.

I also believe that the little war against Finland was another terrible mistake, from the standpoint of principles and international law.

Stalin made a series of mistakes that were criticized by a large part of the world, and which placed Communists - who were great friends of the USSR - in a very difficult position by having to support each one of those episodes.

Since we are discussing this topic, I must tell you that I have never discussed it with any journalist (or on any other occasion, he added).

The things I mentioned are against principles and doctrine; they are even contrary to political wisdom. Although it is true that there was a period of one year and nine months from September 1939 to June 1941 during which the USSR could have rearmed itself, Hitler was the one who got stronger.

If Hitler had declared war on the USSR in 1939, the destruction would have been less than the destruction caused in 1941, and he would have suffered the same fate as Napoleon Bonaparte. With the people's participation in an irregular war, the USSR would have defeated Hitler.

Finally, Stalin's character, his terrible distrust of everything, made him commit several other mistakes: one of them was falling in the trap of German intrigue and conducting a terrible, bloody purge of the armed forces and practically beheading the Soviet Army on the eve of war.

Q: What do you believe were Stalin's merits?

A: He established unity in the Soviet Union. He consolidated what Lenin had begun: party unity. He gave the international revolutionary movement a new impetus. The USSR's industrialization was one of Stalin's wisest actions, and I believe it was a determining factor in the USSR's capacity to resist.

One of Stalin's - and the team that supported him - greatest merits was the plan to transfer the war industry and main strategic industries to Siberia and deep into Soviet territory.

I believe Stalin led the USSR well during the war. According to many generals, Zhukov and the most brilliant Soviet generals, Stalin played an important role in defending the USSR and in the war against Nazism. They all recognized it.

I think there should be an impartial analysis of Stalin. Blaming him for everything that happened would be historical simplism.

Source from this interview.

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u/Revolutionary830 - originally from r/GenZhou
It always gets framed as USSR imperialism or something. But from my perspective it was just geopolitics, since the distance between Leningrad and Finland was like a few kilometers.

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u/Outside_Bug6347 - originally from r/GenZhou
Got banned from other subreddits for this but here I go again. I consider myself a socialist, very pro Cuba, Vietnam and Laos, highly critical of Stalin and Moa but sympathetic to modern day China. Even though I have qualms with Moa (cultural revolution was a bit of a flop but I know that wasn’t his fault entirely and it had positives) and after reading a lot of work in the gulags Stalin did seem to be overly authoritarian though he did raise quality of life for many people. My main problem with this sort of modern communist Reddit community is the defence of North Korea. I do not think North Korea is defensible, South Koreans enjoy a quality of life that is clearly higher and it’s almost impossible for me to wrap my brain around anyone defending that regime. Thoughts?

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u/IrishCommie2023 - originally from r/GenZhou
Here's my understanding of the situation. The war is essentially an inter-imperialist, or at least an intra-class, rivalry between between the NATO-backed Ukraine govt (and associated fascist militias) and Russian-speaking provinces in Eastern Ukraine, which arguably have socialist leanings, and are supported by Russia. The war began with the Euromaidan color revolution; a Western backed coup launched when Ukraine's previous president backed out of a trade agreement with the EU, and resulted in fascist and neo-nazi groups being elevated to the heights of political power. Hence, Russia intervened to protect the Russian-speaking population of the autonomous regions of Donbass and Crimea in the face of further Western economic encirclement

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[deleted] - originally from r/GenZhou
A communist friend of mine recently told me that in china the CPC and government don't have that much power, and that the ruling class is basically the capitalists. He concludes that he thinks the most likely path china is on is 'technocratic social democracy'. He doesn't rule out the possibility of them becoming """fully socialist""" but he thinks the party and government really need to step up their game for this to ever happen. Thoughts on this? I really don't know what to think, since my impression previously was that the party and govt. had a pretty tight hold on the country and economy.

Edit: I showed him this post and he said "I don't give an ounce of a fuck about ppl on reddit. I have no time for a website dedicated to trying to suck one's own cock." LOL

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u/castronautical - originally from r/GenZhou

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u/kandras123 - originally from r/GenZhou
In the northeastern US. Obvious initial instinct was the CPUSA but they seem kinda problematic after investigating a bit more. Any recommendations?

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u/Means-of-production - originally from r/GenZhou
remember this post? k well I actually went on over to the Anarchist Library and read that essay. On top of the fact that it doesn't actually talk about Leninist theory regarding the state withering away at all,(it actually acknowledges that Leninism was successful while Anarchism failed, it's just trying to prove Anarchism is better) it wasn't very good. It's mostly "Anarcho-Communism can defend itself as well as the USSR did ~~ignore that historically it hasn't that's bc they didn't have me commanding them~~ and so therefore Anarcho-Communism is superior to "Authoritarian-Communism" (they insist on calling AES that the entire way through) and we should all be Anarcho-Communists that follow exactly my definition and interpretation of Anarchism". It's like the Hoi4 Wheraboo "Germany would've won if I was in charge" but applied to Catalonia. Don't bother.

He also goes on a weird tangent to attack Engels in one paragraph, and then proves Engels' point like two sentences later, take a wild guess at which 1872 pamphlet he felt the need to try to refute

Can't be arsed making a full reply. "Why should we bother to reply to Kautsky?" it's just the usual recycled anarchist bullshit but it copies Marxism-Leninism slightly more openly, and with as much idealism (read: industrial quantities of it) as you'd expect.

TVTropes Summary:

  • it's not the state, it's the people's democratically elected mutual-aid voluntary fun guardians
  • muh commies betrayed us
  • what if the bourgeoisie didn't attack us
  • Anarchy works, see, like in this [random obscure society that hasn't existed in centuries]
  • me and my hoi4 tactics would've won the war
  • logistics are magic
  • lol no we don't need a command structure
  • Anarchism is perfect and will work because I said so wait wdym "what if people are racist"
  • incoherent gibberish that isn't related to the discussion

read it for yourself if you've got a couple hours to waste.

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u/emisneko - originally from r/GenZhou

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u/Kefun02 - originally from r/GenZhou
Thomas Sowell is an economist. He formerly was a Marxist.

Sowell has said that he was a Marxist "during the decade of my 20s"; accordingly, one of his earliest professional publications was a sympathetic examination of Marxist thought vs. Marxist–Leninist practice.[8] However, his experience working as a federal government intern during the summer of 1960 caused him to reject Marxian economics theory in favor of free market economics. During his work, Sowell discovered an association between the rise of mandated minimum wages for workers in the sugar industry of Puerto Rico and the rise of unemployment in that industry. Studying the patterns led Sowell to theorize that the government employees who administered the minimum wage law cared more about their own jobs than the plight of the poor.[9]

  • Wikipedia on Thomas Sowell

After marxism he shifted to Chicago School thaught, so he was a student of Milton Friedman and so on and so on...

My queation is if someone has read his books:

  • 1985. Marxism: Philosophy and Economics
  • 2000. Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to Economy

In the first book he exposes Marxism and it flaws and considerations. In the second book he wrote something like an introduction to economy, so it could be taken as a text to be used to learn econ 101.

So, this being a subreddit of Marxist-Leninist, what should I think on this man and his work? He is an intelligent man, he graduated from the best schools in thr U.S. and wrote do many books on different topics. He is also, what is wrote on wikipedia, a libertarian/conservstive And I am not someone who knows something of economics(MuH GoMmIeE dOeSn'T kNoW bAsIC eCoNoMiCs!1!1) but he being a former marxist makes me question some things that I know so far and notnknowing how to respond to libertarian on those topics make me question the credibility and trhuth of the whole marxist thaught. He argued that he shifted from marxism with facts, 'cause facts "enligthened" him from marxism.

P.s: sorry for my bad english, still learning😅

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u/evil_elmo1223 - originally from r/GenZhou
I looked up this online, and most of the sources claimed that North Korea invaded South Korea initially. Is this true? As I thought the US had first occupied the land after taking down the PRK.

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u/therealbunkey - originally from r/GenZhou
Tankies and Stalinists say yes, everyone else says no. Can someone who’s actually read his stuff explain whether he’s credible or not.

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u/Absolute_Virgin_Eggs - originally from r/GenZhou
just a yes or no

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