[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've met countless libertarian proletarians, I was one of them in fact. Because societal trends are just trends, and society doesn't simply collapse into what the majority of people (not that a majority of proletarians are socialists at all) will it to be, in fact, that happens very little. If your theory were true, states would have never developed in the first place, as they were against the interests of the vast majority of people living in stateless societies.

It's okay to see trends and predict based on them, but to think the trends indicate a very specific thing is GUARANTEED to eventually happen, and to think henceforth that any other investigation of alternatives is pointless, is what I call self masturbatory fatalism

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Authoritarianism is a measure of how monopolized and heirarchical the decision-making process is within an organization. There's nothing meaningless about that, it's a very specific thing. Now if you use the definition from Engels, where your stomach is authoritarian when it's hungry, it's definitely meaningless, but to pretend that is the only or even the main definition is just asinine.

Indonesia or Guatemala

Are you referring to Jacobo Arbenz and Sukarno? Those were pacifists who refused to arm themselves. That has nothing to do with decentralization.

If you don’t understand the material trends of society

You can't! No one can! Society is not a monolith! It's billions of people with different thoughts and feelings and ideals and desires and conditions, you can't condense them all into a theory, you're not smart for thinking you can. Guessing that society will definitely surely follow a very specific process to the letter is again, purely self-masturbatory fatalism. It's Not Even Wrong.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This all just reads as "don't worry, everything will just somehow work out! <3" and... I don't really buy it.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

can you elaborate?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In that decision is the problem, because that decision is still guided by The Goal, and no matter the number of independent guilds and such, if The Plan denies them resources, they have no other choices.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It doesn't have to be about productivity though. The Goal can be any other thing. Industrialization, militarization, independence, whatever. Whatever The Goal is, the planned economy is subservient to it, and that may result in the things I've been concerned about in this post

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks a lot for the explanation, it makes sense in my head.

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