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For Signal, they will know when and how often you receive Signal messages.

Notifications are used to "activate" the app on your device. Then it will connect to Signal servers and download the encrypted messages.

After the software on your device decrypted the message, then it has the sender details and message content.

There are settings to control how much of that information is used when creating the local notification. Because other apps might log notifications.

@jackalope
@L4s

That's terrifying for showing how little he understands about the problem he is attempting to solve.

Humans use up to four senses at times to accomplish the task of driving.

@mosiacmango
@cm0002

As for selecting an instance, if that is a barrier, then forcing users to create and use multiple accounts in different ways to see all the content they want to is an even larger hurdle to present to users.

One of the biggest problems with Mastodon is new users who think they need an account on every instance website they interact with.

@ThatOneKirbyMain2568

At best, it's an opportunity to organically introduce other types of content and the associated software to people through the social graph they chose to participate in.

If you did as you suggested, by adding posts / threads / communities / magazines without the consent of the users, that would indeed be a problem.

Preventing Mastodon users from seeing the content after they made the choice is also a problem.

@ThatOneKirbyMain2568
@ernest

I take it you weren't aware that Google Wave was based on XMPP.

https://www.networkworld.com/article/757722/opensource-subnet-nine-new-apps-that-show-off-the-power-of-google-wave.html

@onlinepersona

> How do they manage to make the same messages appear on multiple devices?

For a long time, they didn't.

I don't know for sure, but I expect it involves keys that multiple devices share. Any "linked" device would be able to download the encrypted copy and decrypt the message that way. Once any device has done that, it can send a copy to any other devices using the unique keys it knows for that device.

This link describes independent queues for devices: https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/5532268300186-Disappearing-Messages-with-a-Linked-Device

@MacNCheezus

> Signal stores all your messages and media as well, the difference is they encrypt it on their servers.

What evidence do you have to support this claim?

The last time I looked into this, messages and media were only stored encrypted on servers until they were retrieved or expired.

After that, the local device is where things are stored.

@MacNCheezus

This is a good video explaining things, for anyone who doesn't know about the situation Apple created.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BuaKzm7Kq9Q

Alternative 🔗:
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BuaKzm7Kq9Q
https://piped.video/watch?v=BuaKzm7Kq9Q

@helenslunch
@gregorum

Eventually, the list of things Samsung doesn't make is going to be shorter.

@Reverendender

I understand the point you were trying to make. You're just wrong, in my opinion.

You are also focusing on the wrong software.

Mastodon, as the place most people start with ActivityPub software, absolutely should be able to view other types of content.

The important point is to not force anyone to view that content or display it particularly badly.

When all I know about Kbin is that it doesn't work with my Mastodon account, why exactly do I use it?

@ThatOneKirbyMain2568
@ernest

Why don't you ask the Matrix team why they decided to re-invent XMPP and add a stupid HTTP API?

@onlinepersona
@netchami

Don't negotiate with or give in to terrorists!

@ohlaph