spez_fangirl

joined 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I followed all rules. This is magazine is not called antireddit but RedditMigration. Nothing I posted is nonsense, as you can tell by the detailed replies and counterarguments that I have received. Reasonable people can have different and disagreeing views.

I looked to the rules to see what the consequences would be. I expected a safe place where I could engage in a discussion with others. When people disagree with me in a respectful manner I do not have a problem with that. So far only one person has asked me to stop engaging, and that is the person that I cried out to the moderators.

I will end this with what @Emotional_Series7814 wrote to me.

"No problem, it’s not like you came in here disrespecting our views."

It does not seem right that I am not entitled to the same level of respect.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was really encouraged by the responses from everyone else. A lot disagreed with me but still treated me respectfully and I felt I could at least have a voice here.

Then I see this. How come a post like this is even allowed? @jerry @Shortcake @tchambers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The loyal super moderator actually did take part in the blackout according to that post, despite later denials. Maybe it is justified from Reddits POV? Most users both in and out of Reddit agree it was the right call so I hardly see why that matters.

Maybe 40 bucks a month is not enough. Would you do 500 a month to keep them alive? Even if you would how many others could say the same?

We can not know the answers about how realistic a cheaper price would be from Reddits own POV unless we know their financials. Until then I think they deserve a showing of good faith.

I thought about it for a long time and I can not come up with any justification for spez doing the blackmail and false accusations. That was wrong and spez needs to own up to it like he did for the edits he did back in 2016. I do not think Reddit deserves to die because of these mistakes.

I did not know he was like that with Musk. I hate that guy. He is so ugly. Not at all sexy like blonde spez.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I created a Reddit account using a school email address that I no longer have access too and I have since forgotten the password. I have no way of getting back into my account and rescuing my stories.

If everyone comes around to my point of view, then Reddit lives, and my stories stay up. Also the communities that I participate in under my new Reddit account continue to exist. This is important to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am a girl By The Way

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I was trying to say was that these were all out of the control of spez. If Reddits finances were bad enough then spez might not be able to wait long enough to give more time or be able to afford to offer even one penny less in pricing. There is no justifying the poor attitude but maybe spez is just really stressed out?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel that this answer makes the most sense on why spez is getting so much hate right now. He could have made Reddit profitable in so many other ways. He chose to pick the way that would alienate the maximum number of community members and spez is refusing to right the course even after getting so much backlash when spez has plenty of options and opportunity to do this.

I do wonder if there is still something. Some explanation that is not public but which explains why spez was forced to do things this way. Some reason that suddenly makes everything else forgivable.

I have been around. Early AOL user here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Thank you for respecting my views even when they disagree with your own.

You could be right. I could be overly optimistic. What if spez and other top management and developers leaves after getting rich from the IPO and Reddit crashes and burns without them? Maybe spez stays on as CEO after the IPO but continues to ignore the protests because he thinks actually addressing these issues will hurt Reddit's profitability and he doesn't see a way out.

If spez will not deal with these concerns of accessible moderation tools after profitability, how can we expect him to do so before then? Put a different way, there is a chance that spez might actually fix the problems after Reddit becomes profitable. Fixing them before is impossible. There's no chance of that happening.

I never said spez wants more money for more employees. The opposite is going to be true. Reddit will have more layoffs before it gets in the black. Reddit admins will lose their jobs. We are not the only ones suffering. This is exactly why we must stick together to support Reddit and help it become profitable.

I could be overly optimistic. It seems our best chance remains having a benevolent CEO of a profitable Reddit. Without the profitable part, the benevolent part does not matter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am no opponent to the fediverse communities. I am here after all am I not?

I just think that there is room for all of us. KBin, Tildes, Squables, community.win, and yes even Reddit. Why can we not all win?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That looks quite bad. The best I can hope for is that this was a hostile interviewer who mischaracterized spez.

My point still stands. Maybe the reason spez is so defensive is because he knows he has to succeed here or Reddit dies? Maybe spez tried to make the pricing more reasonable and that is why it took Reddit so long to give an answer on the numbers? Maybe spez realized that because of Reddit's poor financials there wasn't really a way to come up with reasonable pricing, that clawing back the opportunity cost was the only way? Maybe spez is like this because Reddits financial situation is that bad and he is getting increasingly desperate?

Even if spez is the devil, there is no way for Reddit to continue as it is now. It is bleeding money. It is hard enough to become profitable under the conditions that Reddit is under. Asking Reddit to provide extra things for free or even for just barely unreasonably cheap is not going to help at all.

Maybe Reddit is pure evil. Our best chance at saving Reddit is still to help Reddit become profitable first and then hope that once it no longer has to worry about failing that Reddit can be reformed into a company that cares about and listens to it's users and it's communities.

Why do you assume that there is nothing you can do to change my position? I am here because I believe we can save Reddit and the communities. I hope that I can inspire others as well.

As painful as it would be I am still open to the chance that I am just plain wrong and the doom of GeoCities is about to repeat itself with nothing that can be done by anyone or anybody to prevent it from happening again this time to Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am hopeful that spez means that the protests are just noise compared to the goal of profitability. Concerns that do not need to be dealt with immediately. This is a far cry from not giving a damn.

 

Seeing a lot of hate and schadenfreude over spez and what he's doing with Reddit.

I feel this is really uncalled for.

What no one seems to understand is that Reddit is unprofitable.

You know what happens to unprofitable tech companies? Think of Geocities shutting down. How many great websites, how many communities were lost?

I can see that spez is trying the best he can to save Reddit. He was one of the original founders. This is his baby. He doesn't want to see it die.

His plan is clear to me.

Reddit is getting too much traffic. It's too big and has too many users, moderators, and communities.

So this means Reddit needs a lot of employees. Someone asked why Reddit needs 2000 employees? Well, where do you think the admins come from? I bet most of them are the hardworking admins who form the bridge between Reddit and the communities.

Since Reddit is so big, perhaps too big, it's hard for them to be profitable. Opportunity cost on users using third party apps means that Reddit has to charge them high prices to make up for lost ads revenue. That's unavoidable.

Okay, sure, maybe some third party apps will agree to run ads in return for lower rates or something. That can work.

Reddit doesn't have an existing way to feed ads to third party apps. I'm don't have experience in that field but I bet developing something like that takes a lot of time. It's also uncertain as Reddit may spend many long months, if not years, developing a way to serve ads to third party apps only to find no takers. Too big a risk.

Remember, the IPO is supposed to happen later this year. Not enough time to develop it and do it right.

So he has no choice but to go in hard against the third party apps. They pay up and make up the cost. If they can't, then they die. Sucks to be them. Their users go to the official app, and get the ads from Reddit. Revenue is saved.

Maybe they don't. Maybe those users quit Reddit altogether. This means less traffic, so fewer expenses for Reddit. Less expenses meas more revenue. Revenue is saved again.

Moderators quit? No problem. Reddit will find new ones or replace them with admins.

Not enough moderators? No problem. Reddit can shutdown the smallest communities that bring in the least revenue. Admins can run the biggest ones.

Section 230? No problem. Reddit adds a new review required mode. Maybe this already exists. Every thread posted is hidden until an admin reviews and approves it. Same for every comment on a thread. This way they can make sure there is no libel or copyright infringement or any other issues before approving.

Need too many admins to review and approve things timely? No problem. Charge users to be able to jump the queue. Those who do not want to pay up then just need to suffer wait times of many months or even years before they can get reviewed and approved.

Less traffic means they need fewer admins. Fewer employees. More layoffs. A more profitable Reddit.

It absolutely sucks that the moderation tools are not ready yet and moderators have to suffer. It sucks worse that those with accessibility needs have fewer options now.

Would it not be worse if Reddit dies altogether? Think about losing those communities. You can't talk to the folks you used to in your subreddits. You have no way to go back and see your own threads, or the useful advice from fellow members of your community. It's all gone.

I have already been through this several times. It hurt to lose Geocities. All MySpace content also gone.

Do YOU want to be responsible for this happening again?!!!

Please do not let this happen again. Please help spez save Reddit.

Give Reddit time. Let spez save Reddit and turn it into a money-maker. Once he does this and Reddit is no longer in danger of being shut down for being unprofitable, then Reddit will have breathing room to solve these issues. A profitable Reddit with a successful IPO will have more cash to spend on recreating the lost moderator tools and accessibility features from third party apps.

FIrst Reddit must manage to survive.

Because Reddit is on it's death throws now.

Because there's no way spez would destroy the trust he's built with the Reddit communities. Unless it is the only way to save the soul of Reddit.

This is why Reddit and spez must win.

P.S. Reddit and spez winning does not mean that we have to lose. If Reddit wins and becomes profitable then the communities are saved. There will be no Geocities or MySpace loss. At the same time a lot of moderators and users who are upset at being monetized will come here. Our communities here will be enriched by this and will continue to grow and blossom. Everybody wins! We can all be winners here!

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