kennethb

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@jonne
They were very much the Junior partner & wholly nonsensical & unrealistic expectations never help. They did a terrific job of holding back the worst excesses of the Tories for 5 years. We saw what happened when their restraining hand was no longer on the tiller. They were entitled to expect some respect & understanding & support from the electorate, but the electorate were too stupid and/or uninformed to realise what was actually happening & had actually happened in that 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

@theinspectorst @i_am_not_a_robot @Syldon @jonne

Yes. Clegg has been much maligned for going into the coalition, and it was a gamble, but one he had to take. If he had failed to take the opportunity when offered, the Lib-Dems would have been sneered at for ever more and dismissed as not being a serious Party. He was right to do it, and the ignorant blinkered electorate treated the Lib-Dems disgracefully in 2015. That is my view.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@theinspectorst @i_am_not_a_robot @Syldon @jonne
Exactly, which is why I voted for it in 2011. It deserved to succeed, but the degree of apathy was high. People didn't bother to get off their backsides to vote, and it was lost. A great pity in many ways. It was a Lib-Dem red line for joining the coalition, together with the raising of the income tax threshold. The Tories now pretend that was their idea. It wasn't.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@Syldon @jonne
Starmer is known to favour PR, and it is official Labour policy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

@jonne @Syldon
They had no option, as the Junior Party in the coalition. They didn't win the election. The Tories did effectively. Reality is a bitch, ain't it.