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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Feels like we’re approaching the point where rules about minutes played per week/month/year might need to be regulated.

It's complicated to legislate for, though. It's not just about limiting time played as a blanket policy across leagues. Context is important. Have a listen to this podcast with performance manager I posted a link to a few days back:

https://lemmy.world/post/8310123

Specifically the part starting at 33:15. It's not a straightforward problem to solve, sadly.

 
  • Injury crisis: The Premier League has seen a record number of injuries this season, with 196 in just over three months. Newcastle and Manchester United are the worst-hit teams with 14 players injured each this season.
  • World Cup effect: The 2022 winter World Cup in Qatar may have contributed to the increase in injuries, as players had to play more games in a shorter time before and after the tournament. The average length and severity of injuries also rose after the World Cup.
  • Hamstring injuries: Hamstring injuries have seen a 96% increase this season, with 53 incidents. This may be related to the longer added time and the higher tempo of the Premier League games.
  • Cost of injuries: Injuries have a significant financial impact on clubs, as they have to pay wages to unavailable players. The cost of injuries across the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and Ligue 1 was £617.8m in 2022-23, a 27.3% increase from the previous season.
  • Festive period: The upcoming festive period will see more games in a short span of time, which may lead to more injuries. The Premier League says no club plays within 60 hours of another match, but some experts suggest 72 hours is the optimal recovery time.
 

cross-posted from: https://mastodon.online/users/hallenbeck/statuses/111438924092907782

The Biggest Danger To English Football, Salary Caps & How Much Money Do Football Clubs Lose? - The Rest Is Football

REALLY interesting episode with Crystal Palace co-owner and chairman Steve Parish.

https://pca.st/episode/5b0d8ca8-0013-41cf-b158-0451672b0190

What is the biggest threat to the growth, or even survival, of domestic football? Would salary caps help level the playing field? Is it ok for football clubs to continually lose money?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The City and Chelsea cases are much bigger, so it's understandable that it will take longer. But it nothing comes of it, what message will that send?

https://nitter.cz/TheAthleticFC/status/1725906962292838539

 

Summary

  • Everton verdict: The Premier League has docked Everton 10 points for breaching its profit and sustainability rules. Everton is the first club to be punished for breaking financial fair play rules.
  • City and Chelsea cases: Manchester City and Chelsea are also under investigation by the Premier League for alleged financial wrongdoing. They face more severe charges and potential sanctions, including relegation.
  • Premier League's stance: The Premier League is keen to enforce its rules and regulations and deter clubs from circumventing them. It also wants to retain some of its regulatory powers amid the prospect of an independent regulator.
  • Everton's appeal: Everton has said it will appeal against the verdict and the finding that it failed to act with the utmost good faith. However, experts believe it is unlikely to succeed.
  • Other clubs' claims: Leeds, Leicester, Burnley and Southampton have 28 days to inform the commission if they want compensation from Everton. They are not allowed to take separate legal action through the courts.
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does this mean we all get to sue City and Chelsea too?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Agreed! Interesting content, in-depth analysis, great goals, highlights from extraordinary or notable matches. 👍

I've found some content I've posted along these lines gets downvoted (e.g. https://lemmy.world/post/8042698) for no given reason, which is always a bit dispiriting. In that example, it's always good fun to get an insight into how top coaches think, even if you don't support that team. Sky's Monday Night Football great for that - Gary O'Neil and Thomas Franck being notable examples recently:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Hello!

Would be great if highlights and goals could be kept in a single matchweek thread or similarly organised somehow. They often crowd out and rapidly push down other content making it hard to see. I've sometimes logged in to find a wall of scores and match updates for stuff I'm not interested in (e.g. the wall of Copenhagen v Manchester United goals recently - would those not be better served up in a single thread rather than a post per goal?). Highlights are fine, but I can usually find extended highlights pretty easily on the many highlight websites out there (including YouTube). Posting scores here seems a bit redundant too - there are so many apps and websites now that provide live scores and in-depth stats.

But I appreciate these things might be useful to others so just appealing for perhaps a bit more organisation around them.

 

cross-posted from: https://mastodon.online/users/hallenbeck/statuses/111416599829567870

Tifo Football Podcast: Is too much football causing injuries?

If you only listen to one thing this international break, make it this. A fascinating and absorbing deep dive into the many aspects and problems associated with player fitness.

It's much more complicated than a binary fit/not-fit decision.

https://pca.st/aw90kigz

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

We Spurs fans had three defensive coaches in succession (Mourinho, Nuno, Conte) and those seasons were pure misery and without any progress, despite at least two of those coaches being proven "serial winners". There's a reason why top clubs in the Premier League aren't defensive – fans and the media hate it and it doesn't suit the league. The clubs at the bottom of the league tend to adopt more defensive low-blocks and mid-blocks out of necessity. Some clubs like Brentford and Wolves have had some success and are dubbed "giant killers" for adopting a low-block and counter-attacking style. But they're not top-4 contenders.

West Ham were steered to victory in the Europa Conference league by David Moyes and he is a notably defensive, pragmatic coach.

Also, in the 22/23 Champions league, 3 of the 4 Premier League clubs in the competition have lower GA/90 (goals against per 90) stats than Atletico:

  • Atletico: 1.50
  • Liverpool: 1.50
  • Chelsea: 0.90
  • Tottenham: 0.88
  • Manchester City: 0.38

The eventual winners of the Champions League last year was of course City, with a total number of goals conceded of just 5 in a total of 1170 minutes of play. Atletico conceded 9 in only 540 minutes.

I don't think Simeone knows what he's talking about.

 
  • Leaked files reveal Chelsea FC received a series of secret payments worth tens of millions of pounds over 10 years from former owner Roman Abramovich. These may have breached football financial rules.

  • The payments appear to be connected to player transfers and contracts for Eden Hazard, Willian, Samuel Eto'o, and manager Antonio Conte among others.

  • The payments were routed through offshore companies and some may not have been properly declared to football authorities. This could violate financial fair play rules and regulations on accurate financial reporting.

  • Experts say the Premier League could punish Chelsea with point deductions if rules were broken to gain an unfair advantage. The league, FA, and UEFA are investigating.

  • There are also revelations around Abramovich secretly funding efforts to challenge financial fair play rules in court. And suspicious payments to the owner of Anzhi Makhachkala before Chelsea bought Willian and Eto'o from that club.

  • Chelsea says the allegations pre-date the current ownership, which has voluntarily reported "incomplete financial information" from the Abramovich era to authorities. The club says it is assisting investigations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same for me but using Geddit. Also finally exploring Mastodon for a replacement for match threads.

Both are part of the fediverse so not mutually exclusive.

You can start a match thread on Mastodon and mention the handle of this community in the post (@[email protected]) and it'll not only start a thread on Mastodon, but also here. Comments added on Masto will appear in the thread here and vice versa. Likes on Masto will appear as upvotes here and upvotes here appear as likes on Masto. It's quite cool. You can tell when a post originated from Mastodon because it has that little rainbow fediverse icon on it.

If you follow a Lemmy community on Masto, the posts will appear as boosts in your timeline.

Here's a thread I started on Masto but is also on the [email protected] community:

https://lemmy.world/post/8197032

All the comments were added from Mastodon, not Lemmy.

This is a thread I posted here directly from Mastodon:

https://lemmy.world/post/7968059

More details on how all this works here: https://vijayprema.com/using-lemmy-from-my-existing-mastodon/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not the calls that are the problem. In the Tottenham Chelsea game the decisions were all correct in the end (pretty much). It's all the waiting around that's the problem. It ruins the flow and enjoyment of the game. I don't know anyone at this point that thinks VAR has improved the game. Fans of clubs in the Championship often tell me they prefer no VAR.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, experience from moderating over at [email protected] is that you've just got to keep posting and posting and posting and gradually, very slowly, the numbers creep up. Same on Mastodon on the #MastodonFC and #COYS tags (can't speak for other clubs). You've got to give people a reason to come back.

Personally, I'm not sure the individual posts containing a single goal from a specific match is helping much. Makes the community seem very noisy. IMO would be better to have one thread per match with goals posted as comments. But I'm not mod here and others may feel differently, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

FWIW, I don't see the community as dead. I post a few things here and there's often a good number of votes and some good discussion. Seems far from dead to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

They’ll need to come up with some strategies for keeping warm while waiting an indeterminate amount of time while waiting for VAR.

In American Football they use stationary bikes to keep warm.

https://bikehike.org/why-do-nfl-players-use-stationary-bike/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, he did say, "I was half-tempted to throw some balls out there for them to kick around". It's right there in the quote I posted.

They'll need to come up with some strategies for keeping warm while waiting an indeterminate amount of time while waiting for VAR.

So not bullshit at all then.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/8065229

Postecoglou: "Absolutely. I am not going to draw a direct correlation to Micky's injury but I was half-tempted to throw some balls out there for them to kick around. It's the reason we have warm-ups but if you're going into a game, the fact there was only 47 minutes of game time the other night in whatever it was, 110, that is not ideal for the type of athletes we have out there"

That's the disgrace right there. All this waiting around is likely harming the players.

 

Postecoglou: "Absolutely. I am not going to draw a direct correlation to Micky's injury but I was half-tempted to throw some balls out there for them to kick around. It's the reason we have warm-ups but if you're going into a game, the fact there was only 47 minutes of game time the other night in whatever it was, 110, that is not ideal for the type of athletes we have out there"

That's the disgrace right there. All this waiting around is likely harming the players.

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