[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Good intention, but outdated info. This has not been true for almost a decade now. Only very old Li-ion batteries needed a cycling to calibrate sensors. Modern battery controllers are very good at avoiding damage from keeping a charger connected all night long. The phones can now cut current to avoid constant voltage to the battery making overcharging basically impossible.

See here.

This advice still applies for shitty toys and other cheap electronics that come with old-tech rechargeable batteries. But new phones and tablets are safe and don't require this much babysitting anymore.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm back to statistical significant data, and why it is important to have good data scientists in the loop. The idea is precisely to ask the questions you are asking. Would have been different if…? Then try to control for other variables in order to avoid the induction error. How do you know they didn't do this with their data?

That's why I mention other phone models. There are Sony phones with and without jacks. There are Asus phones with and without jacks. How did they perform compared to each other? How far away is that difference from what could be expected from randomness? How does that difference compare when the other factors are compensated for? How do they compare with other phones?

I assume they did their homework, and also want to sell more earbuds. They wouldn't push for earbuds and wireless if headphone jacks were market drivers. It would be cheaper to install a headphone jack rather than updating the BT board? Maybe, I don't know. But if other factors have a significant impact on sales while the jack doesn't. Then they have their decision made for them. Market research is not about being right all the time, it is not magic, it is about reducing uncertainty and risk in making decisions. Precisely because there are other phone makers with a headphone jack that do worse than the Fairphone is base enough to understand why they feel safe keeping that feature out. It doesn't add sales and its absence doesn't reduce them significantly either. So they know they are free to keep going even if some vocal critics will be pissed, the actual buyers couldn't care any less.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Have you tried the demo for Passant?

I'm the furthest away as anyone can be from a pro chess player, but this game really revived my passion for chess. Somehow all people want to play is blitz or tournaments. There's little interest in variations. It's like amongst the chess scene having fun became taboo. It's a serious game for serious people who only want to defeat others. And it is so tiring. Oh look, another London system game, how titillating.

It's a board game, I know why people enjoy competition and all, but I find competition drains games from anything interesting to me. I just want it to be fun and intellectually stimulating. Bring variations and quirky rules back, make it interesting to lose. Level the playing field so we can all participate and have fun instead of everyone just trying to play optimally like little machines.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Phone thickness is far from the only consideration. But Ok, you are right. There was space on the iPhone 7. That was also the first water resistant phone. Does this guy phone's is still IP67 compliant after all the surgery he made. And that was in 2016, when IP67 headphone jacks didn't exist. Now the phone standard is IP68. There were no IP68 compliant headphone jacks until recently, I think the ASUS Zenfone 12 is the first one.

I think companies won't bring the headphone jack (a shame, really). But the writing is in the wall, it went away, and phones still sold like hotcakes. While those with headphone jacks aren't being bought anywhere near the same volume. So the signal is very clear, the effort to add a headphone jack — however little it may be — is not financially worth it. It is a feature that doesn't drive sales. Period.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

If you ask people what they want, they will tell you they want a phone that has 15 inch screen that looks perfect under the sunlight. But also fits into their pocket. And it has to have a battery that lasts a week, but it must not weight anything at all. But also has to play all the highly graphical games, and also have a professional level camera. It must do so and also last forever and be indestructible.

That phone obviously can't exist, and a lot of what people want are things that oppose each other from the engineering pov. That's the point of surveys and market analysis. You don't just look at what people say, you look at what they do, what they actually buy.

It is true that the other side of marketing is convincing people that what the company is offering is what they would also want to buy. But it is never a guarantee. I mean, look at the Samsung Edge flop. Marketing is not magic, you can't brainwash 100 million people to buy something they don't want. Marketing is marrying what the company wants to do in terms of cost cutting and profit maxing, with what the market is actually willing to buy. If people keep buying slop, they will keep selling slop, and they will keep marketing slop to people to convince them they want the slop. To break the circle someone has to stop, and it won't be the corporations.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

“It's not in front of my face, so it doesn't exists!”

That's literally the thinking abilities of a toddler. Wireless chargers sell like hotcakes. MagSafe charger is Apple's most popular accessory in their entire history.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I mean, yes. It is about marketing. I just think there are more people who think wires are annoying than people losing their earbuds. For every person who loses BT earbuds every 3 months, there's a person with the same pair for 3+ years who is perfectly happy with wireless quality. Companies don't care about that. They care about decisions that will reduce costs and increase their profits, and Fairphone desperately need profits. Making phones is idiotically expensive.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

No, we aren't forgetting. Precisely because they are a corporation driven by profits like any other, they will do what sells units. It actually goes against the argument for headphone jacks. It is an admission that the people who vocally want phones with headphone jacks don't buy phones (even if they have headphone jacks) and are an statistically insignificant amount of people. My original point. You are vocal, but disingenuous (perhaps not on purpose).

Fairphone catered to the mass market with the Fairphone 4 (and removed the headphone jack) and broke their own sales records. Sorry, that's just the truth. What you want is against the grain of the rest of the market. Yes, even the market who want repairable modular phones.

Because when push comes to shove, you might want the headphone jack but it doesn't drive your purchase decision. And that's the important part. As an example, another person on this very thread asked what phone with a headphone jack is good, someone else gave a suggestion and immediately got the reply.

I considered that phone, but it didn't have an OLED screen, so I didn't buy it.

Admitting that — despite being very vocal about wanting the headphone jack — that feature is actually low in their own list of decision making priorities. At the very least it is below screen quality. Raising the question, where should a profit driven company choose to invest money in when presented with that customer?

In marketing, people are usually very vocal about things that actually don't influence their own purchase decisions. That's just a fact, people are very bad at knowing what they want. That's why you should always observe their behavior, not just ask their opinion. Because a lot of people express opinions they don't uphold with actions.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's just fun with alliteration. It is not so random if you know Italian, they are basically alliterative puns. Sahur is Indonesian, there are version with several languages who have come up with it in the same spirit as the Italian original ones. Usually accompanied by shitty AI renders, because, well using gen ai images is en vogue.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

My friend, sorry to break it to you. But you are the one out of date. Big back and turning Ohio are long gone. Those kids are already on the “I'm too cool to like my childhood things anymore” stage.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

He is referring to the fact that the only game pirate software has made was abandoned 7 years ago in early access and the dude just keeps patching it without significant content to avoid steam flagging and keep charging money for an unfinished demo. It's an unimaginative ripoff to boot.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The relevant actors in this discussion already tried to address the arguments. Ross made a response video because Thor refused to talk to him like a petulant child.

Thor simply doesn't care, his first comment to the initiative was literally "eat my whole ass"[sic]. The whole conversation is way past rational discourse. Thor decided to actively oppose the initiative under the main argument of "this is fucking stupid"(direct quote). There simply isn't any rational argument to address. It's all a personal attack and misinformation from a narcissist with an audience. He knows that this initiative kills his grift business. That's all there is to know about the content of his rationality.

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