So one of the few reasons I still occasionally go on reddit is because I have a weird fascination with right-wing conspiracy theorists, their incredible levels of confirmation bias and confused way of thinking. That kind of community just doesn't exist on lemmy (not complaining).
One thing I have noticed in the past couple of years is that not only do they seem to become more popular, the community also seems to simultaneously move further right and, in some confused ways, more to the left.
They simultaneously think immigrants and the LGBT community is to blame for everything while thinking that it's WEF that is secretly planning everything.
To name one example, there was a post today that was incredibly bigoted not just against LGBT people (which is pretty accepted in those circles obviously), but also criticizes "race mixing", which is quite extreme even for those circles (it has since been removed due to breach of reddit ToS)..
At the same time, some people in the comments seem to be so close (yet so far) to becoming full blown socialists. For example, here is one comment:
"I often wonder what's stopping us from taking what they have? As far as I can see, laws are the only thing protecting them. If they aren't following the laws than we shouldn't either. For example what would Bezos do if employees decided they wanted to take control of his warehouses simultaneously? There is nothing he could do. There isn't even available law enforcement to tackle a scenario like that."
And yes, I checked, this is a full blown right-winger who thinks illegal immigration is ruining America, not some kind of undercover leftist, as far as I can tell.
So what do you make of this stuff? Does it say something when even the confused fringe right essentially flirts with the idea of a "socialist uprising"? Or is it just classic far-right populism/fascism using leftist talking points to divide the working class? Does this mean that there could potentially be some kind of hope that those people reach some kind of class consciousness or are they just too lost and confused?
Don't know too much about Jamaal Bowman, but AOC also seems like a genuine leftist activist that happened, mostly because of a glitch in the system and pure luck, to slide into somewhat of a political position.
And of course, there will always be severe limits to what that path can bring. Which is why they mostly focus on rhetoric and making their ideas more mainstream viable and popular. I think at the moment, that's probably the best they can do. They cannot solve our problems for us, and even if they could, that shouldn't be the goal. The goal should be that we get into a position where we can solve our own problems.
In my view, it's mostly done by "radical online Marxists" and edgy radicals, who I suspect aren't actually doing much except for complaining about it on twitter, which is probably why they get uncomfortable with people actually doing real world stuff? And not gonna lie, sometimes I get my tinfoil hat on and start to question if those are actual misinformation bots.
I also have seen it a lot on the right and with other anti-socialists, who just want to paint Bernie as a hypocrite. Same people who say "But Bernie is a millionaire, what a hypocrite"..