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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

All I'm doing is accurately describing the way the organization was depicted on DS9.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Only on Sunday, after everyone's gone home.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

To me, "redemption" implies forgiveness, while "atonement" implies reparation or sacrifice, without actual forgiveness being in the equation. I think it's an interesting notion, if they can pull it off.

Georgiou has great potential to be a sort of nature/nurture story.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I've said elsewhere in the thread that I think there's a difference between redemption and atonement - I had the impression from the season 3 two-parter that they'd be taking the latter route with Georgiou. I think that could be really interesting, should they go in that direction.

This teaser really didn't provide any information as to whether they will, though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I think "Prodigy" did something similar in season one, when Dal's various genetic traits were asserting themselves.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

From the trailer, I don't get the impression that they're trying to come back from it - rather, they're leaning in to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Notaro likely didn't have a contract at all for Discovery, but I doubt that would have affected anything. I don't get the impression that Wiseman would be overly expensive, either - Notaro is still the bigger star.

Maybe Wiseman just didn't want to commit to a full season or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Does anybody play this game? Is that just...who the game's about?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I tried the Lower Decks game when it came out - it's an idle game, which didn't exactly interest me.

But hey, it led to me learning what an idle game is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

BASHIR: Captain, is there any word from Starfleet about Sloan or Section 31?

SISKO: There's no record of a Deputy Director Sloan anywhere in Starfleet. And as for Section 31, that's a little more complicated. Starfleet Command doesn't acknowledge its existence, but they don't deny it either. They simply said they'd look into it and get back to me.

BASHIR: When?

SISKO: They didn't say.

KIRA: That sounds like a cover up to me.

BASHIR: I can't believe the Federation condones this kind of activity.

ODO: Personally, I find it hard to believe they wouldn't. Every other great power has a unit like Section 31. The Romulans have the Tal Shiar, the Cardassians had the Obsidian Order.

When the top brass of Starfleet are covering your ass, you're an official agent, whether you're "on the books" or not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I always took that explanation as the thinnest of lie meant to give an air of legitimacy.

I think a lot of people did, but the episode doesn't really make the case that it's a lie - in fact, Sloan is protected at the highest levels of Starfleet Command, which supports the idea that Sloan was being completely truthful when he was trying to recruit Bashir. It's a legitimate reading of the episode, at any rate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Section 31 was portrayed less as an extremist cabal and more as a misguided morally-grey organization

My interpretation was more that they were "hiding in plain sight" at that point in time - Pike was under the impression that they were some kind of special forces, and learned the truth over the course of the season.

I only watched this trailer once, but I didn't see any insignia, so I think S31's exact status is still TBD.

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